Digital BW, The Print

Thanks Steadman, Piezocolor along with the new MIS inks and 
Generations are the 3 I'm most interested in. I would be very 
interested in how you made out with duotoned selenium piezo color 
prints ( what a mouth full ). Thanks again for all your help and 
those kind words about my images and site.

Tim







--- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@y..., "Steadman Uhlich" 
<steadmanuhlich@k...> wrote:
> Tim, 
> I use PiezoBW inks in an 1160 with CIS.  I have a 1200 with 
ColorPiezo and CIS but I am waiting for new profiles for the new 
yellow.
> 
> In your situation, you may want to "save money in the long run" by 
buying a CIS for about $120 and a set of ColorPiezo pigment inks for 
another $120 (for 6  4 ounce bottles).  That is the best deal on 
color pigment inks I know of and it comes with free profiles to use 
with the Epson driver.  Outstanding deal I think.  Much 
better/cheaper in the long run than Epson carts.  And pigmented inks 
should last much longer etc...etc...
> 
> If you want more info on the inks, just go to Inkjetmall.com where 
there is a complete comparison to other inks. 
> 
> Good Luck, 
> Steadman
>   ----- Original Message ----- 
>   From: tyork@a... 
>   To: DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@y... 
>   Sent: Tuesday, July 31, 2001 7:52 PM
>   Subject: Re: [Digital BW] Tim York: re:papers
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>   Thanks Steadman. What inks do you use with Torchon and with what 
>   printer? I like printing my b/w as duotones similar to a selenium-
>   toned b/w. Right now I'm using a 1280 and can't buy a 2nd printer 
>   right away. I just bot a complete new computer with 19" monitor a 
>   Canon 4000dpi scanner and the 1280. If I tell the wife I'm going 
to 
>   buy a 2nd printer I may be bunking over at a friends place. Haha.
>   I have a Wacom tablet and Painter software to buy yet. So maybe 
in a 
>   couple of months but for now I plan to continue using duotones 
from 
>   color inks. You have helped me make up my mind on the paper so it 
>   just leaves the inks to decide about. Thank you for your help.
> 
>   Tim
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>   --- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@y..., "Steadman Uhlich" 
>   <steadmanuhlich@k...> wrote:
>   > Tim, 
>   > I visited your site at your invitation and like your work.  
Very 
>   nice quiet images and well done web gallery.  
>   > 
>   > There have been many messages/notes on these papers written 
over at 
>   the Piezo3000 list.  Go over there and check back over the last 
few 
>   months for comments.  Just use the "search" feature of the list 
and 
>   type in your paper names and you will get comments and profiles 
to 
>   use etc...
>   > 
>   > I think any of the Hahnemuhle papers would work fine for your 
>   images.  I have never used the cotton canvases so cannot comment 
on 
>   them.  
>   > 
>   > If I were limited to only one paper for fine art prints (from 
your 
>   list) I would choose the Torchon 285.  It is not as smooth as 
Turner 
>   300 but has a "handmade paper" look to it and print qualities I 
find 
>   very attractive.  Albrecht Durer and Hahnemule 230 have a 
>   pronounced "watercolor paper" texture which is very apparent in a 
>   print.  Torchon texture is subtle and "disappears" in the image.  
At 
>   least on all of my images. 
>   > 
>   > Turner has a smooth surface that also has just a very fine 
coating 
>   texture that aids in hiding any "digital print" look.   A little 
>   texture is a fine thing when doing the inkjet prints.  Some 
papers 
>   are too smooth in my opinion.  
>   > 
>   > Good luck and do go read the archives. 
>   > 
>   > Steadman
>   >   ----- Original Message ----- 
>   >   From: tyork@a... 
>   >   To: DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@y... 
>   >   Sent: Tuesday, July 31, 2001 3:09 PM
>   >   Subject: [Digital BW] re:papers
>   > 
>   > 
>   >   Has anyone on this list used any of these papers? I would 
>   appreciate 
>   >   knowing what inks you used with them and how you made out.
>   > 
>   >   1.Albrecht Durer 210
>   >   2.Hahnemuhle 230
>   >   3.Torchon 285
>   >   4.Turner 300
>   >   5.Hahnemuhle 100% cotton canvas 580
>   >   6.Hahnemuhle cotton/poly canvas 575
>   > 
>   >   I am considering using MIS or Generations inks with my 1280. 
>   Piezo is 
>   >   also a possibility but cost is also a factor. I am an amateur 
>   >   photographer and this is a hobby. If I could impose a little 
>   further, 
>   >   my url is www.portraitsofnature.net, you can see from the 
images 
>   on 
>   >   it the kind of images I will be printing. If any of you have 
>   >   recommendations, based on the type of photography I do, 
regarding 
>   >   inks and paper, please let me know. Thank you.
>   > 
>   >   Regards
>   > 
>   > 
>   >   Tim
>   > 
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