At 10:36 PM -0700 10/16/02, Martin Wesley wrote: >..... > >One thing strikes me though. While we need to be informed about conservation >and longevity, I really have to question to what degree we should let this >rule our art. If we feel one set of materials is better artistically, even >though it may not be the best for longevity, maybe we should follow the art. > >Martin Wesley > >http://www.borderless-photos.de/guests.html > Martin, Your comments above touched on something I wanted to discuss for a while now. After 22 years in art and photography I worried about archival quality and technical matters a good bit of the time. However, I don't believe archival quality/longevity should be the tail that wags the dog. Nor do I want to become a slave to densitometery readings. At some point most of us need to just look at the image and it either works or it doesn't. I think we should learn to trust our aesthetic judgement and our eyes instead of relying on the photo scientists for everything. One of the positive things about being a member of a list like this is that there is a ton of excellent technical information that is all very helpful. However, sometimes I think it needs to be put in prospective or it can stop us from taking excellent images or even make us reject new technology because of some perceived specification that does not "meet the numbers". . A recent example is the densitometer readings of photo rag with the new Ultrachorme inks. After reading a number of posts, I was disappointed and concerned that my favorite paper might be no good with these inks. However, I went further and purchased test images on different stocks with the new inks using an Epson 7600 from inkjetart.com in Salt Lake City. I am happy to report that the samples look great to me and the photo rag paper looks just fine in both black and white or color mode. I have ordered a 7600 and look forward to using it. Believe me that I am not anti-science and have been a very proficient tester of developers/papers and other things over the years using traditional darkroom techniques. I do remember, however, an experience with the editor of one of the more technically oriented photo magazines which I will not name, but it's editorial offices are in the midwest. Their magazine is replete with very technical article riddled with many charts, graphs and occasional chemical notations...however, the photographs that accompanied many of these articles were aesthetically some of the most boring pictures I have ever seen. I went to a Photo West meeting about 15 years ago and stopped by their booth and met their editor. As a long time subscriber to the magazine, I told him I enjoyed reading the technical articles and wondered it they ever accepted portfolios to publish.I showed him some of mine that I had with me. He took one look and said, "oh, you are a fine arts photographer and most of our readers don't relate well to that kind or work. They like the more straightforward technical stuff."...Well, that said it all...I then understood why the great technical articles accompanied with mediocre photos were the norm for that magazine. In summary, I am not at all anti-technical, but would argue that we need to loosen up a bit and experiment with materials and techniques that are not yet blessed by Wilhelm or other demi-Gods in the photo world lest we become very sterile about this wonderful field that has a history of bold experimentation. I am sure many of you are familiar with the works of Man Ray or the Starns twins. The twins, whose work I thought was quite innovative, occasionally used scotch tape in their work, the thought of which still sends chills up the spines of some of my more archivally driven colleagues. yours digitally, Bill Agee -- bill agee studio capistrano beach, ca / laguna beach, ca http://www.redsilver.com
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Re: [Digital BW] Preservation of Inkjet Hardcopies
2002-10-17 by Bill Agee
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