I am reluctant to get into this as I am a rank amateur, but I don't understand why increasing the density of the image via an overlay or softlight blend layer, for example, is "photo illustration." All you are doing is insuring that all of the information in the original negative is visable in the final print. Steve --- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@y..., Jerry Olson <jerryolson@r...> wrote: > Clayton, I do this all the time. Its my workflow. No matter how good the > original photograph is, I can always make it better in Photoshop. What > in the world is wrong with photo illustration? John Paul Capinigro and > Jerry Ulesmann do it VERY well! > > Jerry > > > > Clayton Jones wrote: > > > > Alan, > > > > >>>> > > Some people build an image from countless layers that they diddle with > > endlessly. I call that digital illustration. Do you want to do that? > > >>>> > > > > Isn't this a dangerous generalization? How much diddling with layers > > does it take to cross the line? > > > > I have a 6x7 neg of the St. Marks lighthouse on the Florida panhandle > > coast (taken in 1987) which I was never able to print because the sun > > side of the lighthouse matched the background sky tone almost exactly > > (didn't think to use a filter - duh). I theoretically could have > > masked it on the neg with magenta dye but it was too small and I never > > seemed to have a knack for brush skills anyway, so I gave up on ever > > getting a good print from it. > > > > In PS I was able to zoom in on a pixel level and find that faint edge > > of the lighthouse. It took nearly 3 hours but I was able to > > completely separate the background sky from the lighthouse, trees and > > other foreground objects. Putting it on a separate layer, I was able > > to bring it down in value just below the lighthouse bright side, plus > > add some gradients for edge and corner burning and so on. After 15 > > years I finally got a good print from this neg I've always liked. > > > > Does this cross the line into digital illustration? I really like the > > print because it conveys the mood of the original scene. To me it's a > > miracle after a 15 year wait. This is the sort of thing that thrills > > me about digi printing. > > > > Any other miracle stories? > > > > Regards, - cj > > > > Please visit the Group Homepage to check the Files, Bookmarks, Polls and other resources as they are often being updated. The page is at: > > > > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint > > > > If you wish to receive no emails or just a daily digest, or you wish to unsubscribe, please edit your Membership preferences by visiting this same page. > > > > Please follow these basic guidelines: > > - Include your full name with your message. > > - Include the address of your website, if you have one. > > - As threads develop, trim off excess portions of earlier messages to keep them short. > > - As the topic of a thread changes remember to change the subject header. > > - Good manners are required at all time. No personal attacks or &amp;quot;flames.&amp;quot; > > - Complete your Yahoo profile. > > - Before posting a question, search the message archives and the various resources on the homepage. > > > > > > > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
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Re: How much is too much?
2002-11-18 by Stephen Kobrin
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