A print shop can make you a custom embosser with your own seal, logo, or whatever. Like the ones a Notary Public uses. Jerry Alan Zinn wrote: > > At 01:54 PM 11/18/2002 EST, you wrote: > >In a message dated 11/18/2002 8:31:43 AM Pacific Standard Time, > >mark@... writes: > > > >> #1You don't get it. It's not about keeping your costs down. It's about > >> keeping your quality up. And also about maintaining your > >> credibility. > >> > >> #2 I maintain if you're serious about entering the fine art market, > >> then you've got to bring some solid rules and practices to the > >> table. > >> > >> # 3 If you're gonna live in the "Edition mentality", then the only true > >> way to know that the edition is consistent is to print them all at > >> once. (Whether you then trash the file is another conversation). > >> That's what it means to be an Edition, at least to me. > >> > >> #4 If you're gonna print "on demand", then I'd say you're one notch > >> up from a commercial photo lab. You've deviated completely > >> from the spirit of the artist; you're just an order taker. > >> > >> #5 If you don't want to play by those rules, then fine, no problem. I'd > >> advise at that point to have Open Editions, lower prices, but then > >> know that you're killing your future potential in the gallery world. > >> Just try going for representation at a gallery, and tell them that > >> you practice Open Editions, and see if they take you on. > >> > >> Crafts fairs are one thing; galleries are quite another. > >> > >> MT > >> #1. Hey if you sign it, it passed your quality control, and credibility > >> test didn't it? Certainly you wouldn't sign a piece your not proud of. > >> Your signature is your own endorsement. Comercial work is ultimately > >> approved(or not)by the client paying for the work. This art gallery work or > >> personel work YOU decide what the final is eather the gallery likes your > >> choices or not. Its personal work remember! > >> #2 Solid practices, yes! Rules? hardly. Rules and creative photography > >> seem like a contradiction. You bring your images and print work to the > >> table, and your in or your out. A certain level of quality is expected as a > >> balance with the image. Countless images of the highest quality and > >> integrity have been rejected. > >#3. Very rarely done. Except those that edition under 15 prints. > >#4 Please! That's a little extreme don't you think. Print on demand does not > >mean there is no consistency. Its the same image after all! printed hopefully > >by the same person. Just have Nash Editions print your work, you get more > >money for the prints and have weaker blacks and more sales! And can have > >print on demand. > >#5 Sure galleries like numbered prints! Its all for increasing the prices > >nothing more. There is an implication to the buyer that these are somewhat > >limited and that is why you have to pay more. I'll bet if they liked your > >work enough, the open editions would fly just fine. > >Just tell them there are over 800 AA "moonrise" prints out there, Or that > >your in poor health and expected to die very soon :) > >Sure there is a big difference in craft fair vs. galleries, craft fair > >editions run in the hundreds and galleries in the 10's. > >I know of a couple APIAD (living)blue chip photographers that have many > >editions of the same image. Silver, Platinum, Iris, Lightjet. There each > >different and should be editioned separately. When a customer buys a print > >from the gallery wall, they are expecting to get the one hanging, or one > >pretty close to the same if not identical. > >So if they buy a silver print, that's what they expect to get, not an IRIS or > >platinum print. > >Just because you get a gallery show booked doesn't mean your work is > >collectable, Collectors are actually a very small part of the contemporary > >gallery scene, > >let your estate worry about collectors, work is really only collectable after > >there is no more available, as in death of an artist. People that tend to > >number there prints to 10 or less are going strictly for the collector market > >and trying to get lucky. Unless your Michael Kenna ;0) but he has a 20year > >exhibit history. > >#6 Give them a nice print at a fair price with some assurance that there > >neighbor won't have the same image. > >Mark, are there any living(or dead) photographers that follow your standards > >for editioning an credibility? names? > >I really do no what your saying, only the highest standards are allowed at > >the gallery level and the market insures that. > >Before you hang it ask why would someone buy or not buy this print. Not buy > >because the blacks are weak? maybe! but doubtful. > >Time for my meds! > >Steve M. > > > > Thank you Steve!!! Welcome to Planet Earth. > > A bit of a change of subject. I saw an excellent photo exhibit recently > where the artist had a printer's chop (embossed symbol). It went near the > bottom left, in the rebate, slightly overlapping the image. I thought it > gave a kind of exclusive - extra classy finish. Can anyone elaborate on the > professional use practice of that? Fine art (intaglio, etc.) prints have > them to indicate who did the printing. > > AZ > > Build a Lookaround! > The Lookaround Book. > http://www.panoramacamera.us > > > Please visit the Group Homepage to check the Files, Bookmarks, Polls and other resources as they are often being updated. The page is at: > > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint > > If you wish to receive no emails or just a daily digest, or you wish to unsubscribe, please edit your Membership preferences by visiting this same page. > > Please follow these basic guidelines: > - Include your full name with your message. > - Include the address of your website, if you have one. > - As threads develop, trim off excess portions of earlier messages to keep them short. > - As the topic of a thread changes remember to change the subject header. > - Good manners are required at all time. No personal attacks or "flames." > - Complete your Yahoo profile. > - Before posting a question, search the message archives and the various resources on the homepage. > > > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Message
Re: [Digital BW] Silver Printers: Printing for Editions?
2002-11-19 by Jerry Olson
Attachments
- No local attachments were found for this message.