Digital BW, The Print

I for one have never said trial proofs were artist's proofs. The mistake I
made was not clarifying the situation as I had known it for years...that
being the first prints that satisfied the artist's standard for the work and
I still believe that. I am very happy to own A/P's and they are special and
personal to me. That's not an arbitrary rule and I don't yell. Most of them
have a wonderful personal message inscribed directly to me. There really are
some of us who know about this. This is not a rave. I'm not sure what this
has to do with photography anyway.

bgs

----- Original Message -----
From: <penland.walpen@...>
To: <DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Friday, November 22, 2002 12:14 AM
Subject: Re: [Digital BW] Edition Quantities (and where they go)


> oh yes   TRIAL PROOFS are not artist's
> proofs!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
>
> penland.walpen@... wrote:
> > when are you  (universal) going to do your homework and stop making up
> > your own rules and calling them "what is" ??? if you want to apply
> > printmaking rules, at least find out what they really are and then
> > decide what YOU will do, but stop making such arbitrary rules that do
> > not exist!!!  small wonder it is so hard for photographers   stop
> > talking here and do some real study which only a few of you have done,
> > it is SO obvious which ones   i guess i am near jumping ship   you yell
> > so much and only those (whom i greatly admire) bother to really find out
> > before they rave   jwp
> >
> >
> >  > Artists proofs are just the first pulling of a litho, silk screen
> >  > etc.Has nothing to do with quality. Some people collect them for
> >  > whatever reason they have like First Editions of a book It's a
> >  > pretentious piece of jive which might make someone happy for a while.
> >  >  Book First Editions do glom more bread sometimes though. I have
> >  > a/p's etc. and am not especially thrilled except that they were given
> >  >  to me as gifts. I did have an art gallery for about 5 years----a
> >  > great way to have the government pay for champagne, wine and a lot of
> >  >  other booze for shows. After it's over you quietly fold up your tent
> >  >  and split. And you can end up with a pretty good art collection.
> >  >
> >  >>>
> >  >> "artist proof"  hum? practice prints? General rule is to allow 10%
> >  >> of the edition as proofs, just away of being up front about how
> >  >> many prints
> >
> > i have also owned a gallery, am a printmaker,etc   LEARN first   talk
second
> >
> >   if anyone wants to know what my ethical thoughts as a printmaker are,
> > ask me offgroup, i am gone 11/24-12/1 and 12/5-12/12  jwp/jno
> >
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