Can't Epson realize that photographers simply don't WANT to use Epson inks only? Price is the main reason, but other people actually like other inks (Generations 4) better than they like epson inks. They also want very large ink cartridges like the 3000 has. or larger. Until they bring their prices down to match third party inks, they will NEVER have the third party "game" solved. Jerry sdmey4@... wrote: > Epson, as well as others believe that they have created the do it all > printer, b&w and color"the end to third party game" I would have to assume > there is something"smart" about the epson driver that takes the Yellow ink > out when doing black and white or neutral printing. I have not seen the > driver menus to explain whats going on, but one of the big improvements was > the elimination of the metamerism associated with color pigs printing > greyscal images. I think it was reported that the yellow ink gets held back > and that was the fix formost of the severe metamerism. The color inkset is > only as good as its weakest link, and traditionally its been the Yellow > position. > Anyway the 7600-9600 has moved up a notch or two on my buy list. ;0) > Steve M. > In a message dated 11/26/2002 10:09:26 PM Pacific Standard Time, > mark@... writes: > > >>Steve, >> >>I agree with you that the general understanding is that Gorman >>uses ImagePrint5, but Wilhelm does not mention in the notes >>that the B/W numbers were calculated using ImagePrint5. >> >>Isn't it odd that the same inkset would rate out at over 100 years >>for B/W imagery, versus only 72 years for color imagery? (This >>with ESFA). Could the yellow ink be that radical? >> >>All in all, it sure makes the 96/76/22 seem pretty sweet, huh? >>Wonder how a Gursky C-Print would compare? Wonder how a >>BW silver fiber print would compare? >> >>Don't you know the guy who just took delivery on a 9600 Dye >>machine is having second thoughts right now?... (I was almost >>that guy). >> >>Mark >> > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > Please visit the Group Homepage to check the Files, Bookmarks, Polls and other resources as they are often being updated. The page is at: > > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint > > If you wish to receive no emails or just a daily digest, or you wish to unsubscribe, please edit your Membership preferences by visiting this same page. > > Please follow these basic guidelines: > - Include your full name with your message. > - Include the address of your website, if you have one. > - As threads develop, trim off excess portions of earlier messages to keep them short. > - As the topic of a thread changes remember to change the subject header. > - Good manners are required at all time. No personal attacks or "flames." > - Complete your Yahoo profile. > - Before posting a question, search the message archives and the various resources on the homepage. > > > > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ > > >
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Re: [Digital BW] Wilhelm Ultrachrome Ratings
2002-11-27 by Jerry Olson
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