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Re: [Digital BW] Epson 1270/1280 vs. Canon S9000

2002-12-05 by Editor P.O.V. Image Service

Duncan Staples wrote:

>Any info on best paper to use and information on how much fading to 
>expect?
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>  
>
Since I own and use a 1270, a 1280, AND an S9000, I'll bite..

Lets start with this....

The S9000 is about 3 times the speed of the 1280 (especially obvious on 
borderless 13x19 images)...

The S9000, the 1270, and 1280 AFAIK use the same colorants in their 
inks... (The carriers are VERY different though, with the Canons using a 
significantly lower viscosity ink.. More on that below)

Therefore, fading issues should be the same... Watch out for fugitive 
cyan with either the EPSON or Canon OEM inks...

In the EPSONs, you can use pigment based ink offerings from  MIS and 
MediaStreet.  

With the Canons, the lower viscosity and small printhead nozzles make it 
not possible with current carriers and pigments.  The carrier just won't 
keep the pigments in a stable suspension.. (pigments don't go into 
solution, they are suspended -- they can't dissolve)

However,  BOTH the Canons AND the EPSONs can use Lyson dye-based inksets 
with a  life multiple times that of the OEM inks...  
If one chooses the Fotonics set one gets a larger gamut, with the 
Lysonics set one gets even longer life but a reduced gamut in the reds..

Media issues... Well, that depends upon the inkset one uses.,.. Using 
OEM inks and glossy or luster media, I wouldn't sell the images..

With Lyson inks, you can use glossy or luster media safely.  But, they 
tend to suffer from metamerism on some non-Lyson matte media.

With the pigment inksets,  you will have some problems with using glossy 
or luster media..  Of course there is a new photo black available from 
MIS that should do away with that problem...

There are CIS/CFS systems for the 1270/1280.. It's still a few more 
weeks until  systems for the S9000  (that I would consider using) will 
be available.

OTOH, you can replace the printhead on an S9000 yourself..  I've done it 
under 3 minutes.. On EPSONs you can't even consider that yourself..

Here's what I do...

1270:  MIS VM &  MIS VM Sepia (I may add Gen 5 or the new UltraChrome 
clones)
1280:  Lyson - Lysonics & Small Gamut
S9000:  Fotonics
 

Keith

 

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