Digital BW, The Print

Dontcha love this stuff.
This list gives me more technical and intellectual stimulation than I
get at the college and it's pretty intense there.
Half of our faculty are major techies (Brooks and RIT) and the rest are
the result of art/photo MFA programs. The tech contingent spends lunch
comparing dLogE curves, and I'm teaching our oldest faculty member how
to build profiles. The artsy folk are looking at prints and deciding if
Somerset Velvet or Photorag works best with the image from a scan of a
pinhole paper neg.
 
 
Stan Shire
Associate Professor/Department Chair
Photographic Imaging
Community College of Philadelphia
Adobe Photoshop 6 A.C.E.
Author: Hands On Photoshop 7: Tutorial Workshops

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-----Original Message-----
From: Shire,Stanley [mailto:sshire@...] 
Sent: Thursday, December 05, 2002 5:02 PM
To: DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [Digital BW] Re: Convert to B&W plugins
 
Austin, Austin, Austin and Mark, Mark, Mark:
Is photography not art?
If I vary the tonal scale of the negative by utilizing the Zone System
or burn a sky or bleach a highlight or dodge a shadow, have I left the
realm of Photography and entered the Art Zone?
When I used to do silver prints (before I got religion and an Epson) I
cannot now recall ever making a print that wasn't manipulated in some
way. It would seem that even varying paper grades would move me into
art. Am I impure? 
What's wrong with an orange filter? Why limit your vision? 
S.
Stan Shire
Associate Professor/Department Chair
Photographic Imaging
Community College of Philadelphia
Adobe Photoshop 6 A.C.E.
Author: Hands On Photoshop 7: Tutorial Workshops

215 751-8320
sshire@...
-----Original Message-----
From: Mark Hahn [mailto:markhahn2000@...] 
Sent: Thursday, December 05, 2002 4:42 PM
To: DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Digital BW] Re: Convert to B&W plugins

Ummm, do you consider choosing a specific B&W film type based on how 
it responds to colors more art than photography as well?  And why 
does a yellow filter generally render skies appear more "realist"?  
Is using color filters with B&W film not photography either?  In my 
digital transformation from color to B&W I rarely even go as extreme 
as a orange filter.

mark

...
> But that begs the question, why?  If you are drastically altering 
the
> reality of the tonality, that more becomes art than photography, at 
least in
> my book.
> 
> Austin


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