This is very unscientific and may not help much, but a quick check of my ink levels on my 2200 which has printed no color yet except for a color calibration target: light grey ink is down the most. Matt black is next most used up, followed by Light cyan and light magenta about in equal proportion. regular m and c and y are hardly down at all. Jim H. --- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "Paul Roark" <paul.roark@v...> wrote: > Robert, > > Thanks for the information. > > One thing I've been curious about is whether the UC light black helps make > for smoother transitions, relative to the quads we've been using, as the > black ink is introduced. > > Having received the MIS UC clone black inks, and assuming the designers of > those got their densities right, I was interested to find that the light > black density is essentially the same as the cyan (dark gray ink) density of > the PiezoBW and MIS FS/VM systems. So, in terms of ultimate performance, > the UC ink systems are not likely to have any shadow tone advantage to our > usual quadtone inksets. > > >Epson 2200 (Ultrachrome with Matte Black): > >... > > Dots are visible from the light gray ink in the highlights and also > >around 80% when the black ink enters. > > Even with the 2200 small dot size, it looks like more than one gray ink is > needed. The RIP must really try to hold the color inks down to a bare > minimum. Do they use any color inks in the highlights at all? > > >Unfortunately, unlike the photo black ultrachrome ink, which is > >much warmer, the matte black ultrachrome ink is so cool that > >without adding yellow you can't warm up the print. > > Actually, I think it is the light black that must be relatively cool. The > Epson Matte Black ink I pulled from a 7600 cart is very warm. The quad I > made from the inks are more like a totally warmed, old MIS quad. > > >The yellow has a metamerism problem, so > >IP does not use it. ... > > Interestingly, the MIS UC clone ink tones and characteristics appear to be > reversed from the Epson product. The MIS Matte Black is neutral, but the > MIS Light Black is carbon warm. The MIS Matte Black is weak on EAM but > strong on LPM. With the MIS UC clone ink tones, it would allow the UC > printers with appropriate RIPs to cover a larger tone range while still > avoiding the use of the yellow ink. > > > >Epson 2200 (inks as described above) > >Tintpicker (0/0)--Cool > >Dmax 1.71 (1.75) > > Cyan Magenta Yellow Visual > >25% 0.28 0.30 0.28 0.29 > >50% 0.57 0.61 0.60 0.60 > >75% 1.03 1.08 1.06 1.06 > > This is actually a medium warm/magenta set of readings. Yellow is higher > than cyan. The 75% magenta reading is really high. > > Paul > http://www.PaulRoark.com
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Re: [Digital BW] Quad vs. 2200--Imageprint Revisited
2002-12-13 by jim hayes <jimhayes@frii.com>
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