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Re: [Digital BW] Quad vs. 2200--Imageprint Revisited

2002-12-13 by Robert Morrison

IP uses no cyan, magenta or yellow to print BW...only light cyan and light
magenta.  The grayscale is mostly light gray...black doesn't come in until
around 80%...so your observations are correct.  If you don't intend to print
any color with the printer it would be a good idea to run a 100% magneta,
yellow and cyan test sheet through the printer periodically to make sure
that those heads don't dry up.  Alternatively, you could do

Robert

 On 12/12/02 11:01 PM, "jim hayes <jimhayes@...>" <jimhayes@...>
wrote:

> This is very unscientific and may not help much, but a quick check of
> my ink levels on my 2200 which has printed no color yet except for a
> color calibration target:
> 
> light grey ink is down the most. Matt black is next most used up,
> followed by Light cyan and light magenta about in equal proportion.
> regular m and c and y are hardly down at all.
> Jim H.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> --- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "Paul Roark"
> <paul.roark@v...> wrote:
>> Robert,
>> 
>> Thanks for the information.
>> 
>> One thing I've been curious about is whether the UC light black
> helps make
>> for smoother transitions, relative to the quads we've been using, as
> the
>> black ink is introduced.
>> 
>> Having received the MIS UC clone black inks, and assuming the
> designers of
>> those got their densities right, I was interested to find that the
> light
>> black density is essentially the same as the cyan (dark gray ink)
> density of
>> the PiezoBW and MIS FS/VM systems.  So, in terms of ultimate
> performance,
>> the UC ink systems are not likely to have any shadow tone advantage
> to our
>> usual quadtone inksets.
>> 
>>> Epson 2200 (Ultrachrome with Matte Black):
>>> ...
>>> Dots are visible from the light gray ink in the highlights and
> also
>>> around 80% when the black ink enters.
>> 
>> Even with the 2200 small dot size, it looks like more than one gray
> ink is
>> needed.  The RIP must really try to hold the color inks down to a
> bare
>> minimum.  Do they use any color inks in the highlights at all?
>> 
>>> Unfortunately, unlike the photo black ultrachrome ink, which is
>>> much warmer, the matte black ultrachrome ink is so cool that
>>> without adding yellow you can't warm up the print.
>> 
>> Actually, I think it is the light black that must be relatively
> cool.  The
>> Epson Matte Black ink I pulled from a 7600 cart is very warm.  The
> quad I
>> made from the inks are more like a totally warmed, old MIS quad.
>> 
>>> The yellow has a metamerism problem, so
>>> IP does not use it.  ...
>> 
>> Interestingly, the MIS UC clone ink tones and characteristics appear
> to be
>> reversed from the Epson product.  The MIS Matte Black is neutral,
> but the
>> MIS Light Black is carbon warm.  The MIS Matte Black is weak on EAM
> but
>> strong on LPM.  With the MIS UC clone ink tones, it would allow the
> UC
>> printers with appropriate RIPs to cover a larger tone range while
> still
>> avoiding the use of the yellow ink.
>> 
>> 
>>> Epson 2200 (inks as described above)
>>> Tintpicker (0/0)--Cool
>>> Dmax 1.71 (1.75)
>> 
>>         Cyan    Magenta    Yellow    Visual
>>> 25%     0.28    0.30    0.28    0.29
>>> 50%     0.57    0.61    0.60    0.60
>>> 75%     1.03    1.08    1.06    1.06
>> 
>> This is actually a medium warm/magenta set of readings.  Yellow is
> higher
>> than cyan.  The 75% magenta reading is really high.
>> 
>> Paul
>> http://www.PaulRoark.com
> 
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