IP uses no cyan, magenta or yellow to print BW...only light cyan and light magenta. The grayscale is mostly light gray...black doesn't come in until around 80%...so your observations are correct. If you don't intend to print any color with the printer it would be a good idea to run a 100% magneta, yellow and cyan test sheet through the printer periodically to make sure that those heads don't dry up. Alternatively, you could do Robert On 12/12/02 11:01 PM, "jim hayes <jimhayes@...>" <jimhayes@...> wrote: > This is very unscientific and may not help much, but a quick check of > my ink levels on my 2200 which has printed no color yet except for a > color calibration target: > > light grey ink is down the most. Matt black is next most used up, > followed by Light cyan and light magenta about in equal proportion. > regular m and c and y are hardly down at all. > Jim H. > > > > > > --- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "Paul Roark" > <paul.roark@v...> wrote: >> Robert, >> >> Thanks for the information. >> >> One thing I've been curious about is whether the UC light black > helps make >> for smoother transitions, relative to the quads we've been using, as > the >> black ink is introduced. >> >> Having received the MIS UC clone black inks, and assuming the > designers of >> those got their densities right, I was interested to find that the > light >> black density is essentially the same as the cyan (dark gray ink) > density of >> the PiezoBW and MIS FS/VM systems. So, in terms of ultimate > performance, >> the UC ink systems are not likely to have any shadow tone advantage > to our >> usual quadtone inksets. >> >>> Epson 2200 (Ultrachrome with Matte Black): >>> ... >>> Dots are visible from the light gray ink in the highlights and > also >>> around 80% when the black ink enters. >> >> Even with the 2200 small dot size, it looks like more than one gray > ink is >> needed. The RIP must really try to hold the color inks down to a > bare >> minimum. Do they use any color inks in the highlights at all? >> >>> Unfortunately, unlike the photo black ultrachrome ink, which is >>> much warmer, the matte black ultrachrome ink is so cool that >>> without adding yellow you can't warm up the print. >> >> Actually, I think it is the light black that must be relatively > cool. The >> Epson Matte Black ink I pulled from a 7600 cart is very warm. The > quad I >> made from the inks are more like a totally warmed, old MIS quad. >> >>> The yellow has a metamerism problem, so >>> IP does not use it. ... >> >> Interestingly, the MIS UC clone ink tones and characteristics appear > to be >> reversed from the Epson product. The MIS Matte Black is neutral, > but the >> MIS Light Black is carbon warm. The MIS Matte Black is weak on EAM > but >> strong on LPM. With the MIS UC clone ink tones, it would allow the > UC >> printers with appropriate RIPs to cover a larger tone range while > still >> avoiding the use of the yellow ink. >> >> >>> Epson 2200 (inks as described above) >>> Tintpicker (0/0)--Cool >>> Dmax 1.71 (1.75) >> >> Cyan Magenta Yellow Visual >>> 25% 0.28 0.30 0.28 0.29 >>> 50% 0.57 0.61 0.60 0.60 >>> 75% 1.03 1.08 1.06 1.06 >> >> This is actually a medium warm/magenta set of readings. Yellow is > higher >> than cyan. The 75% magenta reading is really high. >> >> Paul >> http://www.PaulRoark.com > > > Please visit the Group Homepage to check the Files, Bookmarks, Polls and other > resources as they are often being updated. The page is at: > > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint > > If you wish to receive no emails or just a daily digest, or you wish to > unsubscribe, please edit your Membership preferences by visiting this same > page. > > Please follow these basic guidelines: > - Include your full name with your message. > - Include the address of your website, if you have one. > - As threads develop, trim off excess portions of earlier messages to keep > them short. > - As the topic of a thread changes remember to change the subject header. > - Good manners are required at all time. No personal attacks or > &amp;quot;flames.&amp;quot; > - Complete your Yahoo profile. > - Before posting a question, search the message archives and the various > resources on the homepage. > > > > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ > > >
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Re: [Digital BW] Quad vs. 2200--Imageprint Revisited
2002-12-13 by Robert Morrison
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