Digital BW, The Print

--- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@y..., "J. Arthur Davis" <
jarthurdavis@e...> wrote:
> Pete:
> I hope you don't have to eat crow on that statement. If you are
proven wrong
> I hope you are man enough to jump up and apologize a quickly as you
jumped
> up and criticized!
> 
> Jim Davis


No, I wasn't proven wrong. He quickly back-peddled and said that they 
are in testing. Lets see the inks released and I will hail Gary a 
genius for doing something that no one else has been able to do.
Which 
is printing pure pigment ink through an Iris and making a print.
These 
babies are not your average EPSON. Each of the 4 million or so drops
a 
second that pass out of the jets have to be able to take an
electronic 
charge. I went to a seminar given by Graham Nash and heard directly 
from a technical rep from Scitex what would actually happen to the 
various parts of the printer if micro fine pigment was attempted to
be 
printed. It wasn't pretty and the costs of the equipment failures
would 
cost thousands. Hows that? And we cry about clogging our EPSONs. A
few 
bucks compared to clogging an Iris.

Still I resent the hype that is overtaking this list. I joined to
read 
more about Quad Blacks in general. This list turns out to be a huge 
marketing arena for MIS and now Indelible. Makes me wonder if it
isn't 
more profitable being one of the gurus for an ink company than being 
the ink company itself. Fact is that this list is actively utilized
by 
the propoganda of ink company gurus. 

I may have been harsh but I was not attacking Tony per se. I just do 
not want to read the hype of color inks on a list for Black and
White. 
I just don't want to be lied to anymore nor hyped to. I am not saying 
Tony is lieing. I really do not believe he knows enough technically 
about what he is selling to be able to lie. I do believe he is
engaging 
in blatant hype. 

Anyone here want to start a discussion list which doesn't allow 
manufacturers? Isn't that what a discussion list is? Can't the 
manufacturers have their own? Am I the only one bothered by this?
Today 
was a tremendous wake up. I don't want to take it anymore. I want to
be 
able to sign on and learn, and to participate when I actually get
this 
curves thing working. Right now it isn't what it was cracked up to be 
either. So excuuuuse me if I appear skeptical. I am.

Pete