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Re: Eclispe Satine vs. Photo Rag. Was: Re: [Digital BW] Digest Number 1205

2002-12-25 by Jerry Olson

Richard, My eclipse prints are about as good as the photo rag. But I use
the enhanced black ink from media street instead of the MIS ink, which
is a deeper black.  I use Paul's curves.  I like photo rag, but it has 2
problems I can't live with; its too warm for me, and its way too
expensive. When identical inks are used, photo rag does have deeper
blacks, as does Royal riviera (Torchon), and Well's River, which would
be my favorite paper if it didn't flake so bad. Sure is funny hahnemuhle
hasn't fixed this problem after all these years!!!

Jerry

The smooth side of eclipse is as smooth as the photo rag.


I use Paul Roark's curves for all my black and white prints.

> I am a big fan of Photo Rag even having only used it a short time. The
> blacks are much richer and darker for me printing with my 1160 and MIS
> FS-N inks than I get from printing on EAM or Eclipse Satin Bright
> White 190. Also the detail and sharpness is much finer when printing
> on the Photo Rag. 

I haven't noticed this.

I would love to use the Eclipse Satine bright white
> as I like it's texture, ability to choose either side to print on, and
> of course, price. My results, while good, still cannot rival the great
> results I see with Photo Rag. How are the results with the Eclipse
> Satine bright white compared to Photo Rag for you, and what printer
> and inks are you using? Did you do any curve or otherwise other
> adjustments to get better results with Eclipse Satine bright white?
> Thanks.
>

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