Thanks for the info Ernst - the more approaches talked about the better or the lists get dominated by too few brand names! Julian ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ernst Dinkla" <E.Dinkla@...> To: <DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com> Sent: Monday, December 30, 2002 4:36 PM Subject: Re: [Digital BW] Colorbyte and Ink questions > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Julian Thomas" <julianthomas@...> > To: <DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com> > Sent: Monday, December 30, 2002 2:47 PM > Subject: Re: [Digital BW] Colorbyte and Ink questions > > > > This is one of the big plusses of the Posterprint RIP. First you linearise > > the RIP for each inkset, then you can tweak the black laydown, then you > > profile for each paper/ink combo. So you get a driver that doesn't > compress > > tonal values and then optimum black flow and then profiles to much the ink > > to the paper. A major difference between this and IP IMO - you never wait > > for 'support' for an inkset - you just calibrate and go. > > > > Julian > > It is a big plus of many RIPs. On the other hand it isn't so easy to make > CMYK printer profiles. "RGB" printer profiles are far easier to make. The > Wasatch SoftRip allows the user the usual linearisation (calibration in > fact) per printer/inkset + inklimitation + setting for the Cc/Mm breakpoint. > On top of that you can build CMYK printer profiles that incorporate the > Black Generation percentage and the kind of BG. You need a good profile > generator then. > > With version 4.5 there is a choice added to use the printer as an "RGB" > machine, still with the basic calibration aspects but with an extra, > separate Black Generation setting that allows you to use "RGB" printer > profiles instead. > They actually added that to profile the more complex CcMmYKOG printers. With > their normal CMYK channel profile structure it wasn't easy to get the best > from those machines. Another approach would have been to make multiple > channel profiles and a colourengine that can handle that. Profile creation > software for that kind of colour management will be much more expensive. As > I understand it they are also working on that together with Monaco. > > For B&W, good calibration and the use of curves in the driver itself should > be an advantage. The Wasatch SoftRip has the last as well. Still not enough > experience with that however. I have ordered the last upgrade and that > allows me some extra support. I wonder whether they could make a monochrome > linearisation for quad and hexatone inksets. A menu structure that allows > the user to set the quad channels from light to dark and a single greystep > for measuring. The measured results can then be translated in curves for the > individual channels. I guess that for a VM set two greysteps for measuring > would be needed. A CcMmYK printer is linearised as a CMYK printer so in the > calibration curves you will see the usual breakpoint where c goes to C. > Something similar will then be seen in the single calibration curve for a > quad while the individual channels will have odd curves. > > Ernst > > > Please visit the Group Homepage to check the Files, Bookmarks, Polls and other resources as they are often being updated. The page is at: > > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint > > If you wish to receive no emails or just a daily digest, or you wish to unsubscribe, please edit your Membership preferences by visiting this same page. > > Please follow these basic guidelines: > - Include your full name with your message. > - Include the address of your website, if you have one. > - As threads develop, trim off excess portions of earlier messages to keep them short. > - As the topic of a thread changes remember to change the subject header. > - Good manners are required at all time. No personal attacks or &amp;quot;flames.&amp;quot; > - Complete your Yahoo profile. > - Before posting a question, search the message archives and the various resources on the homepage. > > > > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ > > >
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Re: [Digital BW] Colorbyte and Ink questions
2002-12-30 by Julian Thomas
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