Digital BW, The Print

Steve, there is a difference, with gen 4 on any paper.

It makes Eclipse Satine acceptable (it's my favorite paper).  The VM ink
would not result in deep enough blacks to be acceptable on this paper.

Photo Rag, Wells River, William Turner, Torchon, all exhibit outstanding
blacks with the GEN 4 black.  It's been rated at 100+ years, and that's
good enough for me.

A great way to see for yourself which black is truly the best in
density, is simply do a dip and dunk test with a 1x6 inch piece of all
the papers you normally use.  The Gen 4 black always comes out the
winner. I dunk each strip twice, about 20 seconds apart and lay them on
a sheet of plastic, printing side up, until dry.

Jerry





"Stephen A. Tucker " wrote:
> 
> --- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com,
>  Jerry Olson <jerryolson@r...> wrote:
> 
> <snip>
> 
> > The difference in the prints between the 2 inks is
> > the VM black does not make acceptable blacks (for me)
> > on watercolor papers, and the Gen 4 does.
> >
> > Jerry
> >
> 
> Jerry,
> 
> In my limited experience with VM black, it looks very
> dense to me on Photo Rag & EAM/HWM - although I have
> no way to actually measure it.
> 
> On textured paper of any kind, VM black DOES seem to
> give up a LOT of tonal range - much more than most
> "wet darkroom" textured papers ever did.
> 
> If you don't mind me asking, what watercolor papers
> do you like with the Gen4 black?
> 
> Thanks,
> Steve Tucker
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