Digital BW, The Print

Hi Evelyn,

Pardon me for jumping in. I had a similar problem in getting the degree of sepia that I had envisioned the image and ended up going back to a color inkset (MIS Perpetual, which is archival) on a second printer that I use for color anyway. That has given me pretty much the effect I wanted using the photoshop duotone set up. I found the Keith Krebs quadtone set a good starting place. They are more to the red end of things rather than a VanDyke brown kind of tint but I would guess that some tweaking could get around that. The Lyson small gamut inkset can get you to a fair sepia but I don't know about its archival properties. 

Roger
  -----Original Message-----
  From: Evelyn Grant [mailto:ingamom@...]
  Sent: Tuesday, January 07, 2003 1:03 PM
  To: DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com
  Subject: Re: [Digital BW] Cone Sepia and Selenium inks


  Thanks for the reply Eleanor. I'm just not getting any
  brown tones at all with the carbon sepia inks. Just
  very warm b&w. I'm not familiar with the Agfa Classic,
  in the darkroom I used Kodak Ektalure paper and it
  would tone a gorgeous golden brown with brown toner.
  I'm going to try the MIS VMS inks and see what I get
  from them. Thanks again.
  Evelyn
  --- "eleanor77027 <elliebrown@...>"
  <elliebrown@...> wrote:
  > Evelyn the tone of my Cone carbon sepia prints on
  > the Photo Rag 308 is 
  > almost identical to the tone of my silver prints
  > printed on Agfa Classic toned 
  > on Kodak Brown Toner.  The carbon sepia tone is the
  > most beautiful brown 
  > tone I've ever seen--a rich very warm brown that is
  > not plagued with the 
  > greenish/yellow/orange tint of many sepia prints
  > done with other inks/media/
  > toners, etc.  eleanor
  > 
  > 
  > --- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com,
  > Evelyn Grant <
  > ingamom@y...> wrote:
  > > Eleanor,
  > > 
  > > I am using the piezotone carbon sepia with Photo
  > Rag
  > > 308 and I'm not seeing any real brown tones. Are
  > you
  > > getting really brown prints or are they just warm
  > > black & whites?
  > > 
  > > Evelyn
  > > --- "eleanor77027 <elliebrown@a...>"
  > > <elliebrown@a...> wrote:
  > > > I have been struggling with what to do with
  > digital
  > > > black and white
  > > > printing (I'm 
  > > > a silver printer at heart) for a long time and
  > with
  > > > the advent of the
  > > > new cone 
  > > > piezotone carbon sepia and selenium inks I will
  > > > probably sell my
  > > > darkroom 
  > > > equipment in the near future.  the tone of these
  > > > inks is nothing
  > > > short of 
  > > > exquisite on the Ham. Photo Rag 308 and the
  > Kodak
  > > > Ultima Satin.  The 
  > > > Kodak paper allows the inks to dry and the ink
  > > > doesn't rub off but
  > > > this smooth 
  > > > surface satin paper does need to be sprayed or
  > > > brushed with a
  > > > lacquer.  and 
  > > > of course the Photo Rag 308 is awesome.
  > > > 
  > > > My 1280 printer is working well with these inks
  > and
  > > > I haven't
  > > > developed any 
  > > > serious clogs like I did with the original Piezo
  > > > inks.  eleanor brown
  > > > 
  > > > 
  > > 
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