Digital BW, The Print

--- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@y..., "Tyler Boley" <tyler@t...> 
wrote:
> --- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@y..., "Martin Wesley" 
<mwesley250@e...> wrote:
> > Tyler,
> > 
> > Are you objecting to the statement that Piezo contains a green 
> > component or that it fades out? Or both? 
> > 
> > I am not familiar with C. D. Tobie or his tests. Can you tell us 
a 
> > bit more?
> > 
> > Martin
> 
Hi Tyler,

I have no vested interest either, other than to find a workable 
system for myself or even better, several workable systems. Well 
actually I have a vested interest in seeing all the inks succeed. I 
think that is the result that will serve the users best.

I have been involved in this for less than a year and am battling the 
information overload trying to sort stuff out. I do appreciate the 
link. I will check it out and the Epson list also.

I really hate to see the discussions break down to a "My 
ink/paper/printer/whatever is better than yours." That doesn't seem 
to produce much and I don't think there is some "right answer" that 
everyone should follow. It is like criticizing someone for buy a red 
car instead of the green one. If I prefer particular ink to another, 
it doesn't mean anything other than it's simply my preference. It is 
unfortunate that people get so defensive over their chosen product 
and tend to attack anything perceived as a disparaging remark.

I am in complete agreement with you on making the best choice you can 
of the materials available and getting on with making prints. What 
really matters is our personal satisfaction with our work.

I know it must be a pain for people like you who have been involved 
with this much longer than the rest of us, to hear us go over topic 
x, y or z one more time, but I suspect that's the way the lists are 
going to be as we keep adding new people all the time. I appreciate 
you putting up with us and continuing to be interested.

Martin


> Martin, with respect, I have to say these issues don't seem very 
compelling to me in the light of current events. I simply 
> can't muster up the will to go find all the info. I've been 
obsessively pursuing this stuff for years and I simply have 
> conclusions in my head, without footnotes and references. It's also 
not my battle, I have no vested interest in seeing one 
> ink become more successful than another, so I'm stepping back. If 
someone really wants to find out for themselves what's 
> going on here, without bias, there is a lot of information out 
there, particularly in the archives of the Epson/Leben list and 
> the Piezography list.
> For starters, I'd turn your attention here-
> http://www.greenspun.com/bboard/q-and-a.tcl?topic=Inkjet%20Quadtone%
20Printing
> This was the first list, to my knowledge, devoted to quad printing. 
It started back in 1999, before Piezograghy even existed, 
> Lysonic quads were barely out, and MIS the only ink we were working 
with. It's been inactive for a long time and only had a 
> few posts, why it still exists on a server somewhere is beyond me. 
Quad posts on the Leben list go back even farther.
> The other thing that can be done is to simply use whatever 
materials provide the most rewarding prints for the individual, 
> without finding it necessary to run down the alternatives with half 
truths and baseless suppositions.
> Good luck,
> Tyler