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Re: [Digital BW] For Ken: Uncoated papers was: Reference Print/Reality Check

2001-09-15 by Tyler Boley

--- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@y..., ken@k... wrote:
> Steadman:
> I've been using Fabriano Uno watercolor paper, and experimenting with 
> similar papers, including Somerset Velvet, all uncoated. I've also 
> experimented with some coated papers, but nothing seriously, since I 
> want the deckle-edge paper for it's presentation.
> 
> Inks: 1160 - cis/MIS Variable Mix b&w
>       1200 - cis/Generations Enhanced pigment ink
>       7000 - still with the initial epson dyes...unsure which ink 
> I'll choose, but may use Generations Enhanced for continuity.

Hi Ken,
WOW! You really took the leap since last we talked. I have a suggestion. You have really taken the hardest challenge by 
choosing these kinds of papers, though I don't wish to discourage your efforts. I seem to recall David Stock, who stuck his 
toe in the water here and may have  moved along, has a great deal of experience on uncoated art papers. He may have 
some good input.
Dye inks work much much better on uncoated fine art papers than pigments, though it will still be challenging. Having seen 
some of your work, and now knowing your printers and desired papers, I'd be very inclined to try the Lyson Small Gamuts. It 
wouldn't be too painful to get a set of carts for the 1160 and try some small prints on these papers, before moving into the 
7000. The only negative comments I've heard may be irrelevant on papers like Fabriano. You could also pursue some split 
toning with them, and the range from warm to cool is much greater than the various quad solutions. You will get brighter 
cleaner color, and deeper blacks, before mottle and bleed with dyes
Seriously, if I was after a fine art, more illustrative, deckled edge, uncoated look, I'd walk away from pigments and never 
look back. Well... if I could nail it anyway...
....unless Cone finally comes out with Digital Platinum for the 7000...
 There are many very successful and serious fine art printers and print shops out there using dyes and uncoated fine art 
papers, we never hear about them 'cause they're printing, not posting.
Steadman will forgive me, I hope, for butting in. What you are doing sounds very interesting.
Tyler

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