Digital BW, The Print

Not to mention that he was outputting what I assume are BW images on a 1270
with epson's driver.  From my experience detail would be much better from
the piezo driver.  I have a 990 that I use for snapshots.  Typically I can't
get results beyond 8x10 that are satisfying.  Images from my D1 will go to
11x14 if I'm careful, shoot in raw mode and enlarge with genuine fractals.
The method that you use to upscale files size is critical as is not shooting
in jpeg mode.  The overall point is well taken about the media...however I
think that these are limitations in the current technology that will
disappear in the future...if people want them to disappear (I personally
hate grain and will be glad when I don't have to deal with it
anymore...however Antonis's images have beautiful grain that is part of the
image...I'm assuming that he will want it to stay).


Robert

On 9/15/01 10:29 AM, "SKID Photography" <skid@...> wrote:

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> "Shire,Stanley" wrote:
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>> <snip>  I shot many CF cards full of images with the 990.
>> I made a dozen or so 11x14 prints with my 1270 (HWM, Enhanced Gen inks) and
>> my wife (who has looked at way
>> too many of my images over the last few decades) said, "They don't look like
>> the old stuff" "What old stuff"
>> "The old stuff that you used to do in the darkroom"
>> Wow! Reality check. Cut to the chase. The difference (for her) was both
>> resolution and the look of the
>> print.
>> After looking verrry critically at the images, she was right. The fine detail
>> in aspens and other landscape
>> elements at great distances is not there. It's subtle, almost sensed rather
>> than immediately evident.
>> Revelation #2
>> I went to Gettysburg for a few days. I took Mamiya 7, NPS, 3 lenses and a
>> tripod.
>> Astounding.
>> The scans of the negatives were lovely. Detail, range, beautifully smooth
>> gradations, no noise in the 90
>> second dusk exposures.
>> The prints were wonderful.
>> My wife said "Better, but they don't look like the old stuff." Huh?
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> Just curious....What scanning equipment did you use for the negatives?
> 
> Also:  I am not surprised that the digi camera images did not have the
> subtleties in the details, especially
> in landscape images, and especially at those sized prints...I think as capture
> mechanisms improve, this will
> change, but right now (with the cameras you mentioned) there are real
> limitations.
> 
> Harvey Ferdschneider
> partner, SKID Photography, NYC
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