Tim, Jerry, Once you have selected a set of duotone curves you can click on the curve shape to the left of each color square. This gives a more detailed curve shape where you can hand adjust the curve or enter numerical input/output pairs. When you come up with custom duotone sets just record the color numbers and the input/output values on the curves. With that information anyone should be able to recreate what you have done. We could post the curve sets in the "Files" section if you like. I suspect that these may be ink set, printer and driver (and paper?) dependent so you would need to include this info too. Martin --- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@y..., tyork@a... wrote: > Jerry, > > It just makes the tone a little more subtle. It made the adjustments > to the blacks as opposed to the whites and greys. The purple seemed > to be held in the blacks instead of the entire tonal range. I wished > I had more printing background to explain it better. > > Tim > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@y..., Jerry Olson > <jerryolson@r...> wrote: > > Tim, > > > > > > The prints I made yesteday hold up wonderful in Daylight. The > Purple bl4 > > is the correct choice. > > > > I did not adjust the curve. I don't know how to do that (I mean how > it > > actually works, not the physical adjustment of it). Why do you need > to > > adjust it? What happens to the image when you do? and what > adjustments > > did you make to it? > > > > The generic RGB setting seems to be the best choice to make the > print > > and monitor match exactly. (In the print dialogue box). > > > > The prints I've made so far are as nice as the VM inkset. But I have > > many more tests to run, especially to check for the dots. > > > > Jerry > > > > > > > > > > > > tyork@a... wrote: > > > > > > Hi Jerry, > > > > > > The curve window next to the color is the one I adjust. My > > > understanding is this adjusts the distribution of the color > > > throughout the print. I'm not sure if you can adjust the purple > > > itself and leave the black alone. You might be able to do this > with > > > saturation I'm not sure. You are far more experienced with PS6.01 > > > than I am. I'm really glad to find that you can get a selenium- > tone > > > from MIS Archival color. Maybe I've finally found my inks. Thanks > > > again, I really appreciate your help. > > > > > > Tim > > > > > > --- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@y..., Jerry Olson > > > <jerryolson@r...> wrote: > > > > Just did it Tim, I found the one. > > > > > > > > I tried the "Printer Color Management Profile", and purple four > > > duotone. > > > > Results much more closely match the monitor. Then I tried the > Adobe > > > RGB > > > > profile, and that was a hair too light. The Generic RGB profile > is > > > just > > > > about to come out of the printer as I type. > > > > > > > > All three have the desired color. No crossovers. This is > absolutely > > > > amazing for a color inkset. Perfect selenium tone prints!!!!!! > > > (epson > > > > archival Matte paper). I'm VERY impressed. > > > > > > > > Okay, the Generic RGB profile print just came out of the > printer. It > > > > appears to match the monitor perfectly. There does not appear > to be > > > any > > > > metamerism to speak of, either. > > > > > > > > If you haven't tried third party archival color inks yet, I > suggest > > > you > > > > get the MIS set and give these settings a try. I wonder why > Adobe > > > just > > > > didn't label these purple colors "Selenium 1, 2, 3, and 4? > That's > > > what > > > > these appear to be. > > > > > > > > The first three are just a hair too cold and blue, especially > the > > > first > > > > one. But that fourth one.! It's perfect. > > > > > > > > Of course, I've only tried the one image, but it is a snow > scene, > > > and > > > > river, and looks really perfect with these colors. > > > > > > > > I'm going to put a print in the south window tomorrow and see > how > > > long > > > > it takes to shift. > > > > > > > > If these colors hold up, one probably wouldn't even need a quad > or > > > > hextone set of inks. I'll be printing on many different papers > over > > > the > > > > next few days to see how this workflow holds up. > > > > > > > > Jerry > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > tyork@a... wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Jerry, > > > > > > > > > > Go to the canned duotones in PS6.01 and scroll over to the > purple > > > and > > > > > it will be there. > > > > > > > > > > Tim > > > > > > > > > > --- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@y..., Jerry Olson > > > > > <jerryolson@r...> wrote: > > > > > > Tim, I can't get a 527 pantone purple. When I type in that > > > number a > > > > > > light beige comes up. > > > > > > > > > > > > Jerry > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > tyork@a... wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hi Jerry, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The Pantone 527 purple (100%) black 4. This is in PS6.01 > > > canned > > > > > > > duotones. I then played with the curve to get the > > > distribution I > > > > > > > wanted. You might be able to get a more subtle effect if > you > > > > > reduced > > > > > > > the purple. I didn't know how to do this. My knowledge of > PS > > > is > > > > > > > limited. I am more comfortable with the picture-taking as > > > opposed > > > > > to > > > > > > > the picture-printing. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Tim > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@y..., Jerry Olson > > > > > > > <jerryolson@r...> wrote: > > > > > > > > Exactly what purple and black ink? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > There are thousands of shades of purple! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Jerry > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > tyork@a... wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hi Jerry, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I use a black/purple duotone with curve adjustments > on > > > the > > > > > > > purple, > > > > > > > > > 1440 dpi, high speed off, matte paper setting,gamma > 2.2, > > > no > > > > > color > > > > > > > > > adjustments. The light is daytime and normal house > > > lighting. > > > > > > > That's > > > > > > > > > about it Jerry. If I have missed something let me > know. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Tim > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@y..., Jerry Olson > > > > > > > > > <jerryolson@r...> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > yup. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > tyork@a... wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hi Jerry, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > You addressed a post to Mike re: selenium-toned > > > prints, > > > > > was > > > > > > > that > > > > > > > > > > > meant for me? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Tim > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@y..., Jerry > Olson > > > > > > > > > > > <jerryolson@r...> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Mike, I don't think getting a selenium toned > print > > > will > > > > > be > > > > > > > > > > > difficult. > > > > > > > > > > > > But, Whenever you deal with black > > > > > > > > > > > > and white prints, there is metamerism. I got a > nice > > > > > sepia > > > > > > > tone > > > > > > > > > on > > > > > > > > > > > Epson > > > > > > > > > > > > Watercolor paper, and on Eclipse paper > yesterday, > > > that > > > > > look > > > > > > > > > great in > > > > > > > > > > > > daylight, and are also attractive in Tungsten > > > lighting, > > > > > but > > > > > > > are > > > > > > > > > a > > > > > > > > > > > > slightly different tone of sepia. Also, > Metamerism > > > is > > > > > > > different > > > > > > > > > > > colors > > > > > > > > > > > > on different papers. Color prints don't show a > lot > > > of > > > > > > > > > metamerism > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The trick will be to get a nice selenium tone > print > > > in > > > > > one > > > > > > > light > > > > > > > > > > > source > > > > > > > > > > > > that still looks attractive in another lighting > > > > > situation. > > > > > > > I've > > > > > > > > > > > done > > > > > > > > > > > > this for sepia tone, but selenium will be jore > > > > > difficult. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Exactly what are your settings for your epson > > > > > ink/selenium > > > > > > > > > prints? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > What are your choices of lighting? Daylight, > > > Tungsten, > > > > > > > > > Fluorescent? > > > > > > > > > > > In > > > > > > > > > > > > that order? I don't really have any fluorescent > > > > > lighting in > > > > > > > my > > > > > > > > > home > > > > > > > > > > > to > > > > > > > > > > > > view these prints under, I have to take them to > a > > > > > store. And > > > > > > > > > then > > > > > > > > > > > > there's 10 different color temperatures of > > > fluorescent > > > > > > > lighting. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Jerry > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > tyork@a... wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hi Jerry, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Congratulations on your exhibit. Your images > are > > > > > great > > > > > > > and > > > > > > > > > I'm > > > > > > > > > > > sure > > > > > > > > > > > > > they will be very well received by the public. > > > > > > > > > > > > > My family and I always say Grace at meal > times > > > and we > > > > > > > > > included a > > > > > > > > > > > > > special prayer for everyone involved in > > > yesterday's > > > > > > > terrible > > > > > > > > > > > events. > > > > > > > > > > > > > This doesn't sound very Christian-like but I > hope > > > you > > > > > send > > > > > > > > > those > > > > > > > > > > > > > bastards to HELL when you catch them. > > > > > > > > > > > > > I hope, I hope, I hope that you can get a > > > selenium- > > > > > toned > > > > > > > > > print > > > > > > > > > > > from > > > > > > > > > > > > > that inkset. The only thing that keeps me from > > > > > tearing my > > > > > > > > > hair out > > > > > > > > > > > > > (both of them) is that I have the OEM inkset > which > > > > > gives > > > > > > > me > > > > > > > > > good > > > > > > > > > > > > > duotones. IMAGINE, JERRY OLSON printing sepia- > > > toned > > > > > prints > > > > > > > > > and as > > > > > > > > > > > > > Maxwell Smart would say AND LOVING IT :-). > Jerry, > > > they > > > > > > > almost > > > > > > > > > > > sound > > > > > > > > > > > > > like they are a platinum-tone with the rich > > > blacks and > > > > > > > all. > > > > > > > > > Thanks > > > > > > > > > > > > > again, Jerry, for trying to help. I really > > > appreciate > > > > > it. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Best regards always, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Tim > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > www.portraitsofnature.net > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@y..., > Jerry > > > Olson > > > > > > > > > > > > > <jerryolson@r...> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Evening Tim, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Well, I've been doing a VERY odd thing for > me > > > > > today. I > > > > > > > have > > > > > > > > > a > > > > > > > > > > > > > display of > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 15 photos going up in a new gallery in town. > > > They > > > > > wanted > > > > > > > > > > > Sepiatone > > > > > > > > > > > > > > prints! After all I've gone through to get > the > > > cold > > > > > > > tones. > > > > > > > > > But > > > > > > > > > > > these > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Prints I've been printing today, > aren't "Piezo > > > > > Brown". > > > > > > > They > > > > > > > > > are > > > > > > > > > > > > > > genuinely a very attractive sepia tone, and > I > > > was > > > > > > > > > dumbfounded > > > > > > > > > > > as to > > > > > > > > > > > > > how > > > > > > > > > > > > > > good they look. They are much richer in tone > > > than > > > > > the > > > > > > > cold > > > > > > > > > tone > > > > > > > > > > > > > prints, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > and the blacks are deeper. (Browns?) > Richer, and > > > > > more > > > > > > > > > luxurious > > > > > > > > > > > > > looking, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > anyhow!!) They were printed with a color > balance > > > > > > > setting I > > > > > > > > > made > > > > > > > > > > > in > > > > > > > > > > > > > > photoshop, and were printed with the COLOR > MIS > > > > > Archival > > > > > > > > > > > pigmented > > > > > > > > > > > > > inks. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > They actually look more classy than the cold > > > tones > > > > > I've > > > > > > > been > > > > > > > > > > > > > printing > > > > > > > > > > > > > > for all these months. They work on Eclipse > and > > > > > Somerset > > > > > > > > > Enhanced > > > > > > > > > > > > > paper > > > > > > > > > > > > > > beautifully. I have never seen a monotone > print > > > on > > > > > > > Somerset > > > > > > > > > > > velvet > > > > > > > > > > > > > > enhanced of this quality. The blacks? > Browns? > > > are > > > > > deeper > > > > > > > > > than > > > > > > > > > > > you > > > > > > > > > > > > > can > > > > > > > > > > > > > > get with cool tones on this paper. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > So I would say yes, you can print any > selenium > > > tone > > > > > you > > > > > > > > > would > > > > > > > > > > > ever > > > > > > > > > > > > > want > > > > > > > > > > > > > > from this inkset. The prints I've been > printing > > > > > today > > > > > > > don't > > > > > > > > > > > seem to > > > > > > > > > > > > > have > > > > > > > > > > > > > > any noticeable metamerism; This must be > because > > > any > > > > > > > > > metamerism > > > > > > > > > > > with > > > > > > > > > > > > > this > > > > > > > > > > > > > > inkset tends to be a little bit red. (About > 6 > > > or 7 > > > > > ccs > > > > > > > of > > > > > > > > > red, > > > > > > > > > > > if > > > > > > > > > > > > > you go > > > > > > > > > > > > > > by the kodak Gelatin filters. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Again, I learn something new every day. i > never > > > > > thought > > > > > > > I > > > > > > > > > would > > > > > > > > > > > > > actually > > > > > > > > > > > > > > like brown tones. But again, this is NOT an > ugly > > > > > piezo > > > > > > > brown > > > > > > > > > > > color, > > > > > > > > > > > > > it > > > > > > > > > > > > > > is a really nice color! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Tomorrow, I'll try and print a Selenium > toned > > > print > > > > > for > > > > > > > you > > > > > > > > > and > > > > > > > > > > > see > > > > > > > > > > > > > how > > > > > > > > > > > > > > the metamerism goes. It is different, > depending > > > on > > > > > the > > > > > > > file > > > > > > > > > and > > > > > > > > > > > it's > > > > > > > > > > > > > > color/or grayscale mode. It is different if > you > > > > > print it > > > > > > > > > from > > > > > > > > > > > an RGB > > > > > > > > > > > > > > image or from a Grayscale image. So MANY > > > > > variations are > > > > > > > > > > > possible. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Every paper I've used on these sepia prints > > > print > > > > > the > > > > > > > images > > > > > > > > > > > very > > > > > > > > > > > > > well. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The only thing that does NOT look nice as > this > > > color > > > > > > > is, of > > > > > > > > > > > course, > > > > > > > > > > > > > snow > > > > > > > > > > > > > > scenes. They must be cool. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I really think if you put some testing time > in > > > with > > > > > this > > > > > > > > > inkset, > > > > > > > > > > > > > you are > > > > > > > > > > > > > > going to be very happy. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Jerry > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I just can't believe what happened in New > York > > > and > > > > > > > > > Washington > > > > > > > > > > > today. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I've been glued to the news channels all > day. I > > > hope > > > > > > > they > > > > > > > > > will > > > > > > > > > > > > > discover > > > > > > > > > > > > > > exactly who is behind this and eliminate > them > > > > > utterly. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Take Care. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > tyork@a... wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hi Jery, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks for your test on the MIS color > inks in > > > a > > > > > > > duotone > > > > > > > > > mode. > > > > > > > > > > > I > > > > > > > > > > > > > guess > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > that tears it for me. I am going to stay > with > > > the > > > > > > > Epson > > > > > > > > > OEM > > > > > > > > > > > inks > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > until there are inks that will do what I > > > want. I > > > > > like > > > > > > > > > > > selenium- > > > > > > > > > > > > > toned > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > pictures and will wait for Cones selenium > inks > > > > > and see > > > > > > > > > what > > > > > > > > > > > they > > > > > > > > > > > > > are > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > like. Thanks again. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Tim > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@y..., > > > Jerry > > > > > Olson > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > <jerryolson@r...> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Yup, Metamerism raised it's ugly head > last > > > night > > > > > > > with > > > > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > > > > MIS > > > > > > > > > > > > > color > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > inkset and black and white prints. Too > much > > > to > > > > > > > accept, > > > > > > > > > > > toward > > > > > > > > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > red, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I'm afraid. A Real Pity. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Oh well, back the the VM MIS inks.... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Jerry > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > daviddstock@e... wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In > DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@y..., > > > > > Jerry > > > > > > > Olson > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > <jerryolson@r...> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I just printed some black and white > > > prints > > > > > today, > > > > > > > > > using > > > > > > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > > > > > > MIS > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > color inkset and the Torchon > Profile I > > > had > > > > > made > > > > > > > for > > > > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > > > > > > printer. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > (1160) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Torchon, Epson Archival and > Eclipse > > > > > paper, > > > > > > > this > > > > > > > > > > > profile > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > works very > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > well indeed. No color cross overs, > and a > > > > > very > > > > > > > close > > > > > > > > > to > > > > > > > > > > > > > neutral > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > tone. I > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > was absolutely amazed to get > consistent > > > > > black > > > > > > > and > > > > > > > > > white > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > prints from the > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > MIS color inkset. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > How about metamerism, Jerry? Using > > > profiles, > > > > > I've > > > > > > > had > > > > > > > > > no > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > trouble getting good grayscale prints > > > using > > > > > color > > > > > > > > > > > inksets. But > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > such prints have the reputation for > being > > > > > either > > > > > > > > > > > impermanent > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > (like the Epson OEM dyes) or metameric > > > (like > > > > > the > > > > > > > > > Epson and > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Generations pigments). The reported > > > exception > > > > > has > > > > > > > been > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Cone's Color Piezo, which has poor > > > blacks... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Please visit the Group Homepage to > check > > > the > > > > > > > Files, > > > > > > > > > > > Bookmarks, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Polls and other resources as they are > often > > > being > > > > > > > > > updated. 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Re: Photoshop Duotones to get the selenium tone look
2001-09-16 by mwesley250@earthlink.net