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Re: [Digital BW] LaCie vs. Sony vs. Mitsubishi

2003-01-30 by Robert Morrison

Andrew, thanks for copy of the black test.  Wondering if you have had any
experience with the apple LCD's?  On my apple LCD 17 I seem to pick up a
2/2/2 ok...but my problem is that the monitor is so bright that prints
simply don't match as well as with my Lacie III for which I can only pick up
4/4/4.  My hunch is that the problem is with my calibration software
(colorvision's photocal or optical) which doesn't allow for good brightness
setting with the Apple LCD monitors.

Robert



On 1/30/03 6:13 AM, "Andrew Rodney" <andrew@...> wrote:

>> Date: Thu, 30 Jan 2003 04:31:32 -0000
>>  From: "mfp90021 <mfp90021@...>" <mfp90021@...>
> 
>> Lately I have seen the emergence of 2 new CRT monitors that are
>> designed to be calibrated with their own calibrator.  Before it was
>> just the LaCie, now we also have the Mitsubishi 2070 with SpectraView
>> and the Sony Artisan.  Having never been happy with my LaCie I was
>> wondering what the response has been to the other two mentioned.  A
>> Mitsubishi sales tech number told me that the calibrating process for
>> the 2070 with SpectraView only takes two minutes rather than the 10-15
>> minutes I suffer with the LaCie and the software was compatible with
>> OS X, OS 9, and Windows 98 (LaCie is not OS X compatible).  He
>> was also raving that the 2070 was more color accurate, brighter, and
>> had a better tube than the tubes they manufacture for LaCie.  I am
>> hoping that somebody has some real world experience with these
>> monitors and could offer some advise.
> 
> I have a LaCie Blue III and a Sony Artisan (had the original Mitsubishi
> Spectraview). No question that the Artisan is the top dog here. So good in
> fact I sold my $5000 Barco Reference V and replaced it with the Artisan. It
> takes about 12 minutes to do a full calibration but it's worth the wait. The
> LaCie is better now with the new software I've been running but I'd rather
> have two Artisan's! Here's a test you can try to see how well the black
> accuracy is of your calibrated display (courtesy of Bruce Fraser who's Real
> World Color Management is now out and a MUST read):
> 
> Launch Photoshop.
> Make a new document (size isn¹t important)
> Fill the document with black (you can use the fill command)
> Zoom in so document fills screen
> Using the rectangle marquee tool (no feather), make a selection in the
> center (size isn¹t important but don¹t make it tiny)
> Hide the marching ants (command H)
> Click on tab key then F key so ALL you see is black!
> 
> You should see JUST a black screen (no palettes or menus).
> 
> Call up the Curves dialog (command M)
> If possible move it to the side or better, to a 2nd display.
> 
> Ok, click as carefully as you can on the BOTTOM curve point that represents
> 0/0/0 (black). Using your arrow keys, move the up arrow one click at a time
> until you can see separation between pure black outside the marquee and the
> new values in the marquee.
> 
> On my Artisan, I can see a difference between 0/0/0 and either 1/1/1 or
> 2/2/2! On most other displays, I have to move the levels up to 6 or more.
> 
> Also look at the neutrality as you move the arrow key up and make the inside
> square lighter. Do they remain neutral or do you see a color shift (usually
> magenta). On the Artisan, the lighter square remains dead nuts neutral
> appearing. 
> 
> 
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