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Re: [Digital BW] For Ken: Uncoated papers was: Reference Print/Reality Check

2001-09-17 by Robert G. Morrison

Photoinkjet.com plans to offer several coated papers with a deckle edge in
the near future.

Robert

On 9/16/01 11:34 AM, "ken@..." <ken@...> wrote:

> Hello Tyler:
> 
> yes, it has been a huge leap into the unknown... I expect that my
> grand ideas may end up in some sort of compromise in one direction or
> the other....paper or ink. Maybe using a suitable coated paper, doing
> the deckle with a ruler...whatever.
> 
> I feel an obligation to longevity of course, having been 'archival'
> for so long. Wilhelm mentioned his intent of addressing the Lyson
> Small Gamut inks, which I have had an interest in... I'm also
> thinking about color ink too.
> 
> As I gather some experience and an aesthetic sense of what is
> possible, I'll find a balance somewhere. It is helpful to read the
> experiences of others, and I am attentive to your posts, knowing your
> depth of insight. Thank you for your encouragement and the knowledge
> you share.
> 
> best,
> ken
> 
> --- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@y..., "Tyler Boley" <tyler@t...>
> wrote:
>> Hi Ken,
>> WOW! You really took the leap since last we talked. I have a
> suggestion. You have really taken the hardest challenge by
>> choosing these kinds of papers, though I don't wish to discourage
> your efforts. I seem to recall David Stock, who stuck his
>> toe in the water here and may have  moved along, has a great deal
> of experience on uncoated art papers. He may have
>> some good input.
>> Dye inks work much much better on uncoated fine art papers than
> pigments, though it will still be challenging. Having seen
>> some of your work, and now knowing your printers and desired
> papers, I'd be very inclined to try the Lyson Small Gamuts. It
>> wouldn't be too painful to get a set of carts for the 1160 and try
> some small prints on these papers, before moving into the
>> 7000. The only negative comments I've heard may be irrelevant on
> papers like Fabriano. You could also pursue some split
>> toning with them, and the range from warm to cool is much greater
> than the various quad solutions. You will get brighter
>> cleaner color, and deeper blacks, before mottle and bleed with dyes
>> Seriously, if I was after a fine art, more illustrative, deckled
> edge, uncoated look, I'd walk away from pigments and never
>> look back. Well... if I could nail it anyway...
>> ....unless Cone finally comes out with Digital Platinum for the
> 7000...
>>  There are many very successful and serious fine art printers and
> print shops out there using dyes and uncoated fine art
>> papers, we never hear about them 'cause they're printing, not
> posting.
>> Steadman will forgive me, I hope, for butting in. What you are
> doing sounds very interesting.
>> Tyler
> 
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