Not me! I only frame a sale. I know what you mean about these papers, but I made a conscious decision that the image on the paper was more important than the feel. Nothing handles like a heavy fineart paper. But the image on the Ilford (IMO) is better than on PR. It costs 14 euros (roughly the same in dollars) for 25sheets of A4 - I've only used the sheets not the rolls and had no paper problems. I think you are basing your view of RC paper on early examples. The latest multigrade is a nice paper. Julian ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jerry Olson" <jerryolson@...> To: <DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com> Sent: Wednesday, February 05, 2003 1:17 AM Subject: Re: [Digital BW] Paul: Black ink Question > But Julian, how many of us can afford to frame thousands of prints? > > Jerry > > > > Julian Thomas wrote: > > > > I've had a couple of prints done on Epson Premium Lustre with UC, but this > > side of the pond the Ilford really is dirt cheap. people react to the images > > without a questions, as photographs, not inkjets. When given the choice, > > everyone I've shown identical images to as preferred the Ilford. Behind > > glass the artpaper prints loose the feeling of premium quality and suffer > > compared to the greater dmax of art prints. > > > > Julian > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Paul Roark" <paul.roark@...> > > To: "DigitalB&WPrint" <DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com> > > Sent: Tuesday, February 04, 2003 7:03 PM > > Subject: Re: [Digital BW] Paul: Black ink Question > > > > > Jerry wrote: > > > > > > > I guess I'm with Fred Picker. > > > >I can't understand why anybody would want > > > > to use that "slimy plastic crap" (Fred's exact words"), > > > >referring to RC based papers. ... > > > > > > Julian wrote: > > > > > > >For exactly the same reason as you are so careful > > > >in your choice of inks - blacks! > > > >I'm printing on Ilford pearl and it is great. > > > >Atkinson of the famous 'Atkinson profiles' says > > > >his viewers prefer it - behind glass it is luscious > > > >-go on Jerry try it - you'll love the black! > > > >DMaxof 2 - 2.2 anyone?? > > > > > > Ilford Smooth Pearl is about the nicest RC paper I've yet used. I think > > > Atkinson also uses Epson Semi-matte, which appears to only be available in > > > rolls. Have you ever seen any of this paper? > > > > > > I think I'm probably still a matte type of guy, but I certainly understand > > > the appeal of the RC papers. Until I got used to the matte look when I > > > started inkjet printing with pigments, it just looked flat to me. It > > didn't > > > look like the photographs I was used to. > > > > > > At any rate, there is no reason we shouldn't have the ability to go with > > > either RC or matte paper, as we choose. From now on, my inksets will > > > probably have this capability. > > > > > > Paul > > > http://www.PaulRoark.com > > > > > > > > > > > > Please visit the Group Homepage to check the Files, Bookmarks, Polls and > > other resources as they are often being updated. 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Re: [Digital BW] Paul: Black ink Question
2003-02-05 by Julian Thomas
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