I recall when I had a very active wet dark room, several different types of paper, several different chemicals, different toners, etc. Then there were all the tools for dodging and burning. To get a good print from a virigin negative it took at least 10 sheets of paper and sometimes two or 3 sessons. I'm not sure there was anything "simple-off-the-shelf" about it. I settled on a 1280 vs. 2200 since a) I don't do much color and if I want to it will be for snapshots so I'll just get a lowcost letter size printer for that. It also seems that printing B&W with color inks is a mindfield of potential problems and I selected a good printer with good B&W support with black and white inks. I started out with the VM since I do like the ability to be able to "tone" my prints to whatever warmth or coolness that goes best with the image. There was a bit of a learning curve but I must say, using software tools on scanned 4x5 images to produce a final print is much easier and effective than all the wet darkroom techniques. Where I see the biggest area for progress is in the papers and I think there will be progress in the future on that front. I would like to see a good quality semigloss finish that didn't look different for every viewing angle. But all in all I'm satisified enough that all I use my darkroom for is developing negatives. Truman peter nelson wrote: >I recently bought a 2200 because some reviews said it did >good black and white printing. But it has so much metamerism >that the black and white prints it makes are unacceptable. > >My darkroom is just a dark corner of the basement and it needs >major upgrades in plumbing, electricity, and ventilation. >I was hoping to go all-digital and skip the upgrade but It >seems I'm still waiting for a simple-off-the-shelf solution >to digital black and white printing. > >I like the 2200 because of its pigment-based inks, wide >format, 48-mil thick media spec, and flat feed tray. > >Reading this forum and Photo.Net I can see people are desperate >and try a zillion different approaches to black and white ranging >from black-only to expensive RIPs to profilers to hextone printing. >Everyone has their special approach and no one method seems >to be endorsed by more than a few percent of users. > >I'm reluctant to go to a hextone system because of all the hassles >I've heard about with it; the need to maintain TWO big, wide format >printers, the risk of voiding my extended warranties with third-party >inks, questions that have been raised here about color stability, >blackness, and metamerism, and the chip wars between ink >makers and Epson (Epson makes its money on INKS not printers). > >My question is should I upgrade my darkroom and stick with darkroom >prints for B+W or will we SOON see a straightforward, off >the shelf solution to digital black-and-white printing? > >---peter > > > > >Please visit the Group Homepage to check the Files, Bookmarks, Polls and other resources as they are often being updated. The page is at: > >http://groups.yahoo.com/group/DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint > >If you wish to receive no emails or just a daily digest, or you wish to unsubscribe, please edit your Membership preferences by visiting this same page. > >Please follow these basic guidelines: >- Include your full name with your message. >- Include the address of your website, if you have one. >- As threads develop, trim off excess portions of earlier messages to keep them short. >- As the topic of a thread changes remember to change the subject header. >- Good manners are required at all time. No personal attacks or "flames." >- Complete your Yahoo profile. >- Before posting a question, search the message archives and the various resources on the homepage. > > > > >Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ > > > > >
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Re: [Digital BW] WHEN will we get simple, reliable BW printing??
2003-02-08 by Truman Prevatt
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