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Re: UC VM 4.3 (was Epson 7500 what inks should I use?)

2003-02-17 by Vincent Orlando <orlandovl@hotmail.com>

Paul, will these inks work with a 1200 using the 1200 curves?

Vinny
http://www.wulfsden.com



--- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "Paul Roark" 
<paul.roark@v...> wrote:
> Jerry,
> 
> >what is the MIS VM 4.3 inkset?
> 
> It's my latest mix.  I suspect MIS will produce it soon.
> 
> I basically needed an inkset for the 7500 that was up to date.  The 
old vm
> didn't quite meet my current criteria.
> 
> My first attempt on the 7500 was a dual-black, vm-s inkset (Museum 
black in
> the K spot, Epson Archival black in the cyan spot).  This 
arrangement
> allowed software switching of the blacks to print on RC paper.  
That aspect
> of the inkset worked fine, and I'll probably put together a vm-s 
inkset that
> uses the dual-k approach in the future.  The concept works -- RC 
and matte
> printing without the hassle of switching blacks.
> 
> However, the Epson Archival black-based inkset failed for two 
reasons.
> First, diluting the Epson ink with the clear bases that were 
available to me
> changed the rheology (viscosity, etc.) of the ink such that I had 
banding.
> Second, the Epson Archival black-based inkset, in the midtones 
(which were
> diluted Arc K) faded and warmed about like the old diluted MIS FS-
K.  This
> is not the level of performance I was looking for.
> 
> So, I needed a good inkset fast, since I have a lot of printing I 
need to
> get to.  The MIS VM inkset works very well on the 7000, so I 
decided to just
> update that inkset.  The MIS UltraChrome clone Photo and Light 
black inks
> were ideal for this.  They are extremely lightfast and also RC 
compatible,
> for those who care.
> 
> So, UC VM 4.3 is an updated VM inkset that uses the same curves, is 
much
> more lightfast, and is RC compatible (if Photo black is used in the 
K
> position).
> 
> While I was at it, I tuned the inkset (pigment toner) to match my
> lightly-selenium-toned silver prints when the "NC" curve is used.  
The nc
> curve produces prints that are just like the PiezoTone Selenium 
prints.
> 
> The "warm" curve, which prints with, essentially, the raw MIS UC 
Light Black
> ink (pure carbon -- no color added), gives an image that is about 
twice as
> warm as the old MIS VM inkset.  The CMY distribution is almost 
identical to
> the old albumen prints (based on a good reproduction from the Getty 
of a
> 19th century Gustave Le Gray print), but with less saturation than 
the Le
> Gray re-production.  It is not a full-on sepia, but a very nice 
warm tone
> that is so close to the light sepia I was using that I'm not sure 
I'll need
> any more.
> 
> So, for me, it hits the tones I need right now.  The nc curve 
matches my
> silver prints, and the warm curve gives me the tone I need for the 
old photo
> reproductions I'm involved with.  Most importantly for me, it works 
well in
> the 7500 and is very light fast, so the prints I make are going to 
have a
> good long life.
> 
> I'd be curious about your reaction to the inkset.  Each curve will 
print a
> little warmer than the current vm inkset.  However, you have a "cc" 
curve
> that should still be ice cold.
> 
> Paul
> http://www.PaulRoark.com

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