Digital BW, The Print

I did a fare bit of work with OEM Epson 1270 inks on Arches hot press and
Rives BFK before discovering Piezo.  I thought the Arches output was great
at the time, but it isn't even in the same part of the world as Piezo on
coated papers...weak blacks, poor hilights, lack of definition.  I hadn't
really discovered fine art coated papers until I discovered piezo.  I went
back and have tried several of these papers with OEM inks with desasterous
results...mainly with respect to fading. Dyes interact with coatings much
more than pigments and thus can have very unpredictable results. Its
possible that dyes may interact with sizing agents in uncoated papers as
well.  Probably best to soak these papers before you use them...but I'm not
sure whether you could keep them flat enough to go through the printer.
Whenever I'm using Epson OEM inks (1270) I only use Epson papers to play it
safe.  My guess is the MIS inks will behave very similarly to piezo inks
with respect to these issues...although...as particle size probably differs
between the inks they will have their differences.

Robert

On 9/18/01 7:57 AM, "Tyler Boley" <tyler@...> wrote:

> --- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@y..., Todd Flashner <tflash@e...>
> wrote:
>> mention above, but based upon what you have seen, how would you say their
>> gamut, depth of black, metamerism, etc., compare with pigs on coated papers?
>> 
>> Todd
> 
> Todd, gamut and depth of black are far less on uncoated papers no
> matter which ink, without question. Metamerism, I don't know, I've
> only done tests with color images that don't show it well. Because the
> dye is actually absorbed into the uncoated paper metamerism may very
> well be different.
> If those qualities are the priority, coated papers are the way to go.
> If not, I've seen some lovely prints with dyes and uncoated.
> Tyler
> 
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