Carolyn, I just rubbed a sheet of William turner paper and made a print. I can see no burnishing marks at all It looked just fine. I then rubbed an old print from my first piezo days. The paper was Wells River, which I believe is Jon Cone's name for lightweight William Turner. About 200 flakes came off and so there are about 200 white areas all over the print. I hadn't rubbed this paper down before I printed on it. I didn't know that doing so would elimanate a lot of the flaking problems back then. So even today, this very expensive paper has a very serious problem with potential flaking. I didn't rub the print all that hard. Who's to say that in a few years time the prints on this paper won't start flaking all by themselves? I do remember when I first got into digital printing, I sent for some sample prints from Lyson. They send a model printed on about 8 different papers. Every single one of them had a huge number of white flakes all over the prints. I couldn't understand why they would have ever sent them out as samples. I just took another look at them, and they are truly a mess. Thousands of little white areas all over the prints, and they have just been setting in a drawer since I got them, about 7 years ago. These Lyson Papers were in fact Hahnemuhle papers. By now, you would think that hahnemuhle would have had so many complaints they would have fixed this problem. Jerry Carolyn Frayn wrote: > > > Carolyn, which papers do you see burnishing on? > > Well's River (William Turner) and German Etching. Especially WT. > > > > > Jerry > > > > I'll try it under really bright light. > > ;)... hold the paper at an angle to that light, have an area you > haven't rubbed so you can compare... I'm very curious, as I haven't had > any luck with the rubbing, without that effect. > > Carolyn > > Please visit the Group Homepage to check the Files, Bookmarks, Polls and other resources as they are often being updated. The page is at: > > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint > > If you wish to receive no emails or just a daily digest, or you wish to unsubscribe, please edit your Membership preferences by visiting this same page. > > Please follow these basic guidelines: > - Include your full name with your message. > - Include the address of your website, if you have one. > - As threads develop, trim off excess portions of earlier messages to keep them short. > - As the topic of a thread changes remember to change the subject header. > - Good manners are required at all time. No personal attacks or "flames." > - Complete your Yahoo profile. > - Before posting a question, search the message archives and the various resources on the homepage. > > > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
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Re: [Digital BW] HWM rated more archival than EAM/EEM !?
2003-02-25 by Jerry Olson
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