Digital BW, The Print

Sandy and Robert,

If you would like, I can forward to Robert what you (Sandy) already 
sent to me. That might save you some hassle in printing these all 
over again.

I can vouch for the similarity. The piezotone selenium is slightly 
cooler, closer to neutral, and printed details in a patch of grass 
better (not sure why; there's no loss of detail anywhere else in this 
particular Epson RIP print), but I still like the Epson RIP print 
better overall. With the naked eye, the Epson RIP print seems much 
smoother to me in the monotone sky. The piezotone print looks a 
little more coarse in that area. No doubt if you looked through an 8x 
loupe, the tables would be turned on smoothness, but I'm more 
concerned about the naked eye.

I have the Epson RIP myself now and am getting similarly great 
results using Sandy's workflow. (See my previous post on this for 
details.) Yes it is warm -- warmer than selenium piezotone, but not 
quite as warm as Black Only. It is warm in a way that I find quite 
attractive. Personally I would not trade this for piezotone.

Steven Gray
photopilgrim.com


--- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "sanfo2003 
<SandyCornelius@c...>" <SandyCornelius@c...> wrote:
> > I have a light black and black ink only 2200 print sitting next 
to 
> > a Selenium piezotone print as well...and they are nothing alike.
> 
> 
> Robert,
> A print made with "black only" using the Epson driver yields a 
print 
> with a tone that is what I will call "tan". You're right, very very 
> warm and nothing like Piezotone Selenium. But print the same image 
> with the RIP and it looks like Piezotone Selenium. I would be happy 
> to send you (no charge, of course) a couple prints from the same 
> image, one from the RIP and one from Pieziography using Selenium 
> Piezotones and you can check it out yourself. Some folks seem to be 
> skeptical of this RIP comparison to Pieziography/Selenium and I 
need 
> a credible witness. As far as what's going on to accomplish this, 
> well, I'm afraid I would be getting in over my head to make a 
> conjecture -- I'll leave that up to people who understand these 
> things better than I.
> 
> -Sandy