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Re: A workflow challenge

2001-09-20 by Martin Wesley

Tyler,

Thanks for the additional insights into your workflow. I hadn't 
realized that you methods gave you the ability to tweak the color of 
the Piezo inks.

This also jogged my memory to put your original post in the "Files" 
section.

I have put it in Files>Image Processing.

Martin

--- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@y..., "Tyler Boley" <tyler@t...> 
wrote:
> --- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@y..., Todd Flashner 
<tflash@e...> wrote:
> 
> > Tyler this raises some questions for me. Do you think this is 
enough to have
> > you use the Piezo driver more in the future? If not, what in your 
workflow
> > do you prefer? Is it mostly for pride in craft, in feeling good 
knowing
> > you've built your system on your own, preference for habit; or 
are there
> > visible benefits to your workflow, in your prints, to your eyes.
> 
> I ask myself this regularly, and double checking against the Piezo 
driver is certainly something I do from time to time 
> though I hadn't done it with Zees. Because PressReady puts down so 
much ink, and because I can make K a bit richer by 
> adding another ink to it, I feel more confident I have maxed out 
the ink/paper Dmax capability. The difference is not great 
> though. There are many different "dotless" ways to make many of the 
grays by how the inks are combined. Since the inks 
> are very slightly different in hue and react to the coatings to 
varying degrees, I have a print color I slightly prefer. Am I 
> seeing what I want to see because I'm reluctant to abandon years of 
work? Quite possibly, I'm probably not the objective 
> judge.
> 
> I ask, not
> > to put you on the spot in any way, but to help me sort out where 
I stand in
> > the face of this revelation.
> 
> No no! these are important questions I try to honestly ask myself.
> I have yet to see a quad output of Zees that doesn't have some 
little "problem". The niggles in mine are simply different 
> than the niggles in the Piezo output, so given the above I'll stay 
with my workflow for now.
> 
> > tangible, that I'm not considering, that outweighs some of the 
benefit of
> > discretely separated boxes and Zees? Do you know what I mean?
> 
> I hope so, did I?
> Since Martin asked me some time ago to post my workflow, and 
because people find useful tidbits in workflows that are 
> otherwise irrelevant, I did post it. I don't recommend it though, 
if you like the look of Piezography. I mean really, why 
> bother? For developement with other inks, perhaps it's more 
relevant.
> I already had the tools, some grasp of the workflow, and an 
obsession with getting under the hood (as Martin puts it). Had I 
> not arrived at something I prefer, I hope my family and friends 
would have staged an intervention by now.
> Really, I'm more concerned with creative output (what? you don't 
believe me?). When step wedges and Zees emerging from 
> my printer were replaced by images it was a happy day. But I was 
the same way in the darkroom, and talented friends that 
> bought off the shelf chemcals and papers produced amazing work with 
very standard procedures still couldn't make me 
> stop this crap. I guess we all have to go about it our own ways...
> Tyler

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