Digital BW, The Print

----- Original Message -----
From: "Alessandro Pardi" <alessandro.pardi@...>
To: <DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Tuesday, March 04, 2003 11:08 AM
Subject: RE: [Digital BW] Epson3200 - Test results


Simon

I think that even the most curled film would behave with the
fluid. As for
positioning the film, with 6x7 in the 4x5 area you have plenty of
room (the
only issue may be getting it vertically and horizontally aligned,
but you
can always rotate it in Photoshop). If you scan 4x5 you probably
need a
custom carrier (but then again, I didn't personally verify that
the epson
*needs* the carrier to perform calibration).

Alessandro

-----Original Message-----
From: Simon Lamb [mailto:simon@...]
Sent: marted\ufffd 4 marzo 2003 10:57
To: DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [Digital BW] Epson3200 - Test results


Alessandro

Great!  I shall get some Kami fluid and try to emulate your
success.    I
take it that absolutley flat film is required, or does the
surface tension
of the fluid keep it flat?  Also, how do you get alignment of the
frame to
be scanned?  It seems that it might be difficult to get the frame
square in
the mddle of the 4"x5" frame.

Regards.

Simon
  ----- Original Message -----
  From: Alessandro Pardi
  To: 'DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com'
  Sent: Tuesday, March 04, 2003 9:43 AM
  Subject: RE: [Digital BW] Epson3200 - Test results


  Simon,

  step-by-step:

  1) Put the epson carrier on the glass. I think that if you skip
this step
  the scanner may have problems in calibrating.
  2) Put a few drops of fluid on the glass, in the 4x5" area. My
first try
was
  2 drops, but this is barely enough to cover the 6x7 surface:
with 4 you
get
  some fluid overflowing, but that's not a big issue.
  3) Place one edge of the film down on the fluid, then gently
bend the film
  to avoid air being trapped (in my first attempt I got a couple
air
bubbles,
  and they are definitely visible in the final scan).
  4) Scan away.
  5) Remove the film. The fluid very quickly evaporates. Kami say
that it
  leaves no residues, both on film and on glass: this isn't
completely true,
  but I don't feel it's a problem.

  BTW I started these tests to verify whether focus plane was on
glass, or
  where the carrier keeps the film, or anywhere in between.
Laying the film
on
  the glass with no fluid gives NO better results on my scanner,
and
generates
  Newton rings. So the better quality I get with the KAMI isn't
due to
  focusing, but to the fluid itself.

  Alessandro

  -----Original Message-----
  From: Simon Lamb [mailto:simon@...]
  Sent: marted\ufffd 4 marzo 2003 10:23
  To: DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com
  Subject: Re: [Digital BW] Epson3200 - Test results


  Alessandro

  An impressive result.  I am getting some great scans from the
3200 now,
  especially since I swapped to Silverfast Ai and calibrated the
scanner
with
  the reflective and transparent targets.  Even the Delta 100
black and
white
  scans are much better.  To the untrained and non-critical eye
they are not
  that different from the Flextight Photo at normal viewing
distance.

  Can you provide some step by step instructions for how you are
mounting
the
  images you scanned.  Are you using fluid direclty on the
platten or have
you
  fabricated a glass carrier?

  Thanks for working to show how scans can be improved.

  Simon
    ----- Original Message -----
    From: Alessandro Pardi
    To: DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com
    Sent: Tuesday, March 04, 2003 9:05 AM
    Subject: [Digital BW] Epson3200 - Test results


    Sorry if this is a bit OT, but I thought some may be
interested in the
    performance of this new scanner.
    Tests I made are not comparison with other scanners (you can
find plenty
  of
    them on the web), but simply how to get the best out of it.
As you can
see
    in the following image:

    http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=1341299
<http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=1341299>
  < http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=1341299
<http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=1341299&size=lg>
&size=lg>
&size=lg

    I found that the Kami fluid SXL 2001 is well worth the
trouble of both
    finding it and using it (it's a bit messy, although less than
I feared).
    Technical details in the photo.net page should fully explain
the test,
but
    feel free to ask for further information.

    The following is the first "real" scan (not including tests,
I mean) I
  made
    with the Epson:

    http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=1339580
<http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=1339580>
  < http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=1339580
<http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=1339580&size=lg>
&size=lg>
&size=lg

    all other photographs in my photo.net folders are 35mm
scanned with a
  Canon
    FS 4000.


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