Just a comment: yep, with IP5 it's dead on neutral, and yes dots in highlights, which my MIS 1280/VM prints don't have, but come on now, we are talking teeny teeny weeny here. If you are scanning in film, worry about the film grain more (my opinion, others disagree). I think Paul Roark's work with the MIS UC version has great promise though I haven't myself seen any output yet. One thing that concerns me is that AFAIK it is for 1160 and 1280 printers. And I've been finding that there HAS to be a difference in the head design of the 2200- it just simply doesn't ever get clogs. Heck I've only had to do about four or five cleanings max in 3 months to get a clear nozzle check. Otherwise the checks are perfect without having to clean. Voodoo. And no windex-parking pad tricks up my sleeve, ladies and gentlemen..<g> I do have a theory that if you don't use the 2200 Epson driver to print a purge pattern now and then, the printer will not do an automatic cleaning- you know, when it makes cleaning noises when you didn't tell it to, like when you first turn it on or hit print? IOW, IP5 may not have a built in command to "run a cycle after ten prints or so", and so I got banding in the middle of four prints on IP5. Solved easily by just running the Epson driver on a purge pattern or maybe the rare cleaning cycle. So I wonder if Paul will come up with an all grey UC something to fit the 2200. Jim H. --- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "Peter Nelson" <peter@s...> wrote: > --- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "rvsatzuma" > <rvsatzuma@y...> wrote: > > I recently acquired an epson 2200 to print Black and White images > from high > > end drum scans. The 2200 is advertised to be Epson's best non > commercial > > product: BUT I did not know of metamerism. > > You would if you had visited either this forum or the > Photo.net Digital Darkroom group first! Don't feel bad - > I got conned, too. I read several reviews on places > like Luminous Landscape talking about how Epson had > solved the metamerism problem. I didn't know then how > much L.L. gets carried away by their own highly irrational > exuberance. > > > > Epson technical does not have an answer other than > > metamerism is in the nature of the ultrachrome inks. > > Then how do they explain how the IP RIP can print > black and white on the 2200 using the stock inks > and exhibits no metamerism? Allegedly so can Epson's > OWN RIP, although I'd really appreciate it if someone > would mail me a sample to evaluate! > > > The sales staff at Samy's suggested the advanced > > version of ImagePrint 5.0 RIP at $1,000.00, but did > > not provide a convincing demonstration > > One of the members here, Tom Fors, sent me an IP RIP > B+W sample and it looks very nice indeed - perfectly > neutral, excellent shadow detail, no metamerism. The > dither patern is a bit coarser than the stock Epson one > but I didn't think that was a big problem for large prints. > > But the IP RIP price is too rich for my blood. Epson > released a driver for the 2000 (which had such bad > metamerism that there are reliable reports of ex-hippies > from the 1960's who checked themselves into treatment > centers after seeing the metamerism because they thought > they were having acid-trip flashbacks) that is designed > to reduce the metamerism, also by using a coarser dither > that apparently omits the most offending inks. So one > might HOPE they would issue a fixed driver for the 2200. > I.e., we can dream on.
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Musings on 2200 vs 1280 UC and clogging, was metamerism and the Epson 2200
2003-03-06 by jim hayes
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