Digital BW, The Print

Thanks for the reply.  It sounds like we're doing things the same way 
(although I'm printing from a Windows PC).  My output does have a 
noticeably blueish cast, but the shadows do seem a bit "lifted" with 
the Photorealistic box checked.

-Robert

--- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "digikdm" 
<monroekd@h...> wrote:
> I actually select adobe rgb in the print space because some of my 
> images are in grayscale rather than adobe rgb. if your image is in 
> adobe rgb, i'm not sure if it would matter if you selected "same as 
> source" or adobe rgb. it would appear to make no difference , but 
you 
> could test it.
> i am working in OS 9, and i believe that the natural color box is 
> automatically not checked in the photorealistic mode. So for me , 
> that is unchecked all the time.
> as far a what photorealistic does , i'm not sure. but without it,
> you will get muddy shadows. you're not talking to an expert here.
> i got to this point by trial and error.
> do my prints still show some unwanted tinting... yes, but it's 
> minimal, and i am willing to accept the situation as is for the 
time 
> being. The match-up with the mi monitor is pretty darn close. i'm 
> considering a RIP from epson or IP , but i'm going to wait for a 
> while and just keep digitallizing my backlog of images.
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> --- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "Robert" 
> <LA_Native@h...> wrote:
> > A couple questions for clarification:
> > 
> > Under Photoshop's Print Space/Profile, do you indicate "Adobe 
RGB" 
> > or "Same as Source"?
> > 
> > Also, in your Epson settings, do you mark "Color Controls", Mode 
> > = "Photorealistic", and leave Epson Natural Color unchecked?
> > 
> > Lastly, just what does "Photorealistic" really do?
> > 
> > Thanks
> > Robert Ades
> > 
> > --- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "digikdm" 
> > <monroekd@h...> wrote:
> > > After numerous test prints under a variety of settings using 
> > nascent 
> > > epson software provided with the printer and no third party 
> RIP,the 
> > > combination that I found works best for B&W prints is as 
follows:
> > > 1. WORK  AND PRINT in Adobe1998 color space. DO NOT use 
> any "Epson 
> > > print space" settings( such as Epson 2200 matte MK) or you will 
> be 
> > > rewarded with a spectrum of casts, usually magenta and /or 
> green,  
> > > depending on other settings. Obviously , I did not try every 
> color 
> > > space combination , but the above seems to work.
> > > 2. Always use the photorealistic color setting under 
> the "advanced" 
> > > settings.Do not use "no color management" or you'll be rewarded 
> with
> > > smudged shadow areas /loss of detail.
> > > 3.For best results with minimal color shifts in various 
lighting, 
> > use 
> > > Matte paper and matte black ink.
> > > 
> > > With these settings I've found that my grays and blacks 
actually 
> > > match what I see on the monitor.I've have only dealt with B&W 
and 
> > > don't know if the above holds up for color prints. I am 
satisfied 
> > > with the prints I'm getting  now , but I wish Epson would 
refund 
> > all 
> > > the ink and paper I used to come to this conclusion.Their 
manual 
> > that 
> > > comes with the printer will send you off in the wrong direction 
> for 
> > > B&W.Maybe this will save someone else many hours of frustration.