Digital BW, The Print

The BlackBlack will be similar in lightfastness to the Gen enhanced
black...both contain considerable dye stuff.

The real performer here will be the photo black on gloss paper...that will
blow away all the matte blacks on dmax.

Coupled with the new Oriental fiber-based gloss which is due out sometime
this spring it will be the ultimate digital "silver-print".

Robert

On 3/8/03 5:03 PM, "Jerry Olson" <jerryolson@...> wrote:

> The Museum black isn't all that black. Portfolio is better, and the
> black black is the blackest. (Cone inks).
> 
> The Generations 4 black is deeper than any of the above. Very close to
> black black. Very. But enhanced is still just
> a tiny bit blacker. I could live with the Black Black from cone.
> 
> Where does the new MIS version 4.3 black fit in here with the 4 above
> inks as far as deep blacks go?
> 
> I  recieved 12 little prints from Cone, and I think the Selenium toned
> ink print with the Black Black is gorgeous. But I
> understand the black black is not very stable. Anyone know for certain?
> 
> If they had at least an honest 35 year life and they weren't three times
> as expensive as most other inks, I'd use them
> but first I'd like to see and hear more about the MIS 4.3 inks.
> 
> Jerry
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> mh wrote:
>> Since they are comparing it to Museum Black can we assume that this is
>> an all pigment ink?
>> 
>> -mh
>> 
>> --- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "sceptre12345" <
>> am1000@v...> wrote:
>> 
>>> From MIS site's:
>>> As of March 1, 2003, Eboni has taken the place of the Double Density,
>>> VM & FS black inks. We have not changed part numbers or prices, but
>>> this is what you will now get when you order VM, VMS, FS, FSN or
>>> Double Density Black. It has the same Dmax, 1.72 as the other inks
>>> and will not effect profiles or workflow curves. It is the best black
>>> ink we have ever made and it is superior to Cone's Museum Black. It
>>> is also what we use in our PG and 7600 Archival inks as the Matte
>>> Black. The older co-solvent based black is no longer available
>>> 
>>> 
>>> --- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, Steven Schaefer
>>> <stevenr@m...> wrote:
>>> 
>>>> Paul I am using the MIS FSN inks. is this a replacement for those
>>> 
>>> inks?
>>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Please visit the Group Homepage to check the Files, Bookmarks, Polls and
>> other resources as they are often being updated. The page is at:
>> 
>> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint
>> 
>> If you wish to receive no emails or just a daily digest, or you wish to
>> unsubscribe, please edit your Membership preferences by visiting this same
>> page.
>> 
>> Please follow these basic guidelines:
>> - Include your full name with your message.
>> - Include the address of your website, if you have one.
>> - As threads develop, trim off excess portions of earlier messages to keep
>> them short.
>> - As the topic of a thread changes remember to change the subject header.
>> - Good manners are required at all time. No personal attacks or
>> &amp;amp;quot;flames.&amp;amp;quot;
>> - Complete your Yahoo profile.
>> - Before posting a question, search the message archives and the various
>> resources on the homepage.
>> 
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
>> 
>> 
>> 
> 
> 
> 
> Please visit the Group Homepage to check the Files, Bookmarks, Polls and other
> resources as they are often being updated. The page is at:
> 
> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint
> 
> If you wish to receive no emails or just a daily digest, or you wish to
> unsubscribe, please edit your Membership preferences by visiting this same
> page.
> 
> Please follow these basic guidelines:
> - Include your full name with your message.
> - Include the address of your website, if you have one.
> - As threads develop, trim off excess portions of earlier messages to keep
> them short.
> - As the topic of a thread changes remember to change the subject header.
> - Good manners are required at all time. No personal attacks or
> &amp;amp;quot;flames.&amp;amp;quot;
> - Complete your Yahoo profile.
> - Before posting a question, search the message archives and the various
> resources on the homepage.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
> 
> 
>