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Re: [Digital BW] Re: Infused Paper? + PMA report: DIMA Shoot Outs results available

2003-03-12 by Ernst Dinkla

----- Original Message -----
From: "Ernst Dinkla" <E.Dinkla@...>
To: <DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Wednesday, March 12, 2003 10:15 AM
Subject: Re: [Digital BW] Re: Infused Paper? + PMA report: DIMA
Shoot Outs results available


> Harald, you wrote:
>
> > Ernst: <... Schoellershammer (Germany) brought some inkjet
> coated papers on
> > the market about 18 months ago. They claimed that the paper
was
> coated in the
> > paper pulp before actual papermaking and that it had
> advantages.... >
> >
> > I didn't realize this, but if true, they sure didn't do a
very
> good marketing
> > job! ;-) Since Edmunds claims the patent, I assume the
> Schoellershammer
> > process is somewhat different.
>
> It isn't so specific on the website as they said it at the
> introduction but reading between the lines helps in this case:
>
>
http://www.schoellershammer.de/eng/prod_fine_art/fine_art_main.ht
> ml
>
> What I also miss is a reference to a pigment ink variety, maybe
> their conclusion became later on the same as mine then.
>
> Checked the prospect papers and proof sheets that I got (24
> months ago exactly) and there they wrote it was compatible with
> pigment printers like the Epson 9500.
>
> With emphasise on dye ink and better fade properties it gets
more
> and more similarity to the FutureWales claims.
>
> I must have some normal Bockingford aquarel paper (non inkjet)
> and I still have a dye printer, could try that out. Wilhelm
> tested Iris dye inks on normal aquarel papers like Arches quite
> favourably, it can't be that history repeats itself ;-)
>
> Ernst

Looking at a piece of Bockingford I'm sure it isn't free of
OBA's.
The proof sheet says "Bockingford Tub Sized" the Dutch
distributor added "Surface sized" to its description. All in all
a heavy sized paper like most watercolour papers. Most likely
gelatine sizing or PVA. That is very compatible to certain dye
inks like Ilfords Archiva. But getting a patent for that
combination amazes me. Can't be that Ilford, Ciba, Lyson forgot
to apply for one isn't it ? Are there special patents written in
Cymric ?  Yes, I'm sceptic on this "news" :-)

Ernst

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