Yahoo Groups archive

Digital BW, The Print

Index last updated: 2026-04-28 22:56 UTC

Message

Re: [Digital BW] RE: Is this noise or what? (was: Epson3200 - Test results)

2003-03-17 by Julian Thomas

You are dead right - it is better to leave sharpening until PS, BUT the
optics in the 1680 are so soft that I need both. BTW I only do this in BW -
for colour I do all the sharpening (I use Ultra Sharpen Pro) in PS. One test
I do is to take a blank neg and use a sharp knife to make a score and then
experiment with various amounts of sharpening to get a fine line. Flatbed
scanners IME just cannot get the sharpness of a film scanner. People talk
resolution numbers all the time but ignore the 'look' of scanners. I note
that this is happening with cameras i.e. the Kodak is 'better' than the
canon because it has more megapixels, noone seems to be bothered about the
image quality!

Julian
----- Original Message -----
From: "Alessandro Pardi" <alessandro.pardi@...>
To: <DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Monday, March 17, 2003 3:14 PM
Subject: RE: [Digital BW] RE: Is this noise or what? (was: Epson3200 - Test
results)


> Julian,
>
> do you get better results with a pre-sharpening at scan time? I always
read
> that it's better to leave the sharpening to Photoshop.
>
> Alessandro
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Julian Thomas [mailto:julianthomas@...]
> > Sent: domenica 16 marzo 2003 12:06
> > To: DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com
> > Subject: Re: [Digital BW] RE: Is this noise or what? (was: Epson3200 -
> > Test results)
> >
> >
> >  I cannot get satisfactory scans (sharp) without applying 3x3
> > > pixel unsharp mask in the scanning application (Silverfast Ai 6).
> >
> > Me too on a 1680. I need a 3x3 in the scanner software plus the usual
> > unsharp mask tricks in PS. Just as an example - I had some
> > scans done on a
> > minolta of 6x6 cm negs. On the 1680 I have to use the same
> > amount of unsharp
> > mask on a 600x600 pixel 75ppi jpeg as i did on the 4800ppi
> > minolta tiff
> > file. Colour is harder as the 3x3 gives me a halo effect. I've started
> > shooting a BW landscape project (ok Nij stop laughing) and the lackof
> > sharpness is pissing me off big time
> >
> > Julian
> >
> >
> > ------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Sponsor
> > ---------------------~-->
> > Your own Online Store Selling our Overstock.
> > http://us.click.yahoo.com/rZll0B/4ftFAA/46VHAA/ucIolB/TM
> > --------------------------------------------------------------
> > -------~->
> >
> > Please visit the Group Homepage to check the Files,
> > Bookmarks, Polls and other resources as they are often being
> > updated. The page is at:
> >
> > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint
> >
> > If you wish to receive no emails or just a daily digest, or
> > you wish to unsubscribe, please edit your Membership
> > preferences by visiting this same page.
> >
> > Please follow these basic guidelines:
> > - Include your full name with your message.
> > - Include the address of your website, if you have one.
> > - As threads develop, trim off excess portions of earlier
> > messages to keep them short.
> > - As the topic of a thread changes remember to change the
> > subject header.
> > - Good manners are required at all time. No personal attacks
> > or &amp;amp;quot;flames.&amp;amp;quot;
> > - Complete your Yahoo profile.
> > - Before posting a question, search the message archives and
> > the various resources on the homepage.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to
> http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
>
>
>
> Please visit the Group Homepage to check the Files, Bookmarks, Polls and
other resources as they are often being updated. The page is at:
>
> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint
>
> If you wish to receive no emails or just a daily digest, or you wish to
unsubscribe, please edit your Membership preferences by visiting this same
page.
>
> Please follow these basic guidelines:
> - Include your full name with your message.
> - Include the address of your website, if you have one.
> - As threads develop, trim off excess portions of earlier messages to keep
them short.
> - As the topic of a thread changes remember to change the subject header.
> - Good manners are required at all time. No personal attacks or
&amp;amp;quot;flames.&amp;amp;quot;
> - Complete your Yahoo profile.
> - Before posting a question, search the message archives and the various
resources on the homepage.
>
>
>
>
> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
>
>
>

Attachments

Move to quarantaine

This moves the raw source file on disk only. The archive index is not changed automatically, so you still need to run a manual refresh afterward.