You are dead right - it is better to leave sharpening until PS, BUT the optics in the 1680 are so soft that I need both. BTW I only do this in BW - for colour I do all the sharpening (I use Ultra Sharpen Pro) in PS. One test I do is to take a blank neg and use a sharp knife to make a score and then experiment with various amounts of sharpening to get a fine line. Flatbed scanners IME just cannot get the sharpness of a film scanner. People talk resolution numbers all the time but ignore the 'look' of scanners. I note that this is happening with cameras i.e. the Kodak is 'better' than the canon because it has more megapixels, noone seems to be bothered about the image quality! Julian ----- Original Message ----- From: "Alessandro Pardi" <alessandro.pardi@...> To: <DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com> Sent: Monday, March 17, 2003 3:14 PM Subject: RE: [Digital BW] RE: Is this noise or what? (was: Epson3200 - Test results) > Julian, > > do you get better results with a pre-sharpening at scan time? I always read > that it's better to leave the sharpening to Photoshop. > > Alessandro > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Julian Thomas [mailto:julianthomas@...] > > Sent: domenica 16 marzo 2003 12:06 > > To: DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com > > Subject: Re: [Digital BW] RE: Is this noise or what? (was: Epson3200 - > > Test results) > > > > > > I cannot get satisfactory scans (sharp) without applying 3x3 > > > pixel unsharp mask in the scanning application (Silverfast Ai 6). > > > > Me too on a 1680. I need a 3x3 in the scanner software plus the usual > > unsharp mask tricks in PS. Just as an example - I had some > > scans done on a > > minolta of 6x6 cm negs. On the 1680 I have to use the same > > amount of unsharp > > mask on a 600x600 pixel 75ppi jpeg as i did on the 4800ppi > > minolta tiff > > file. Colour is harder as the 3x3 gives me a halo effect. I've started > > shooting a BW landscape project (ok Nij stop laughing) and the lackof > > sharpness is pissing me off big time > > > > Julian > > > > > > ------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Sponsor > > ---------------------~--> > > Your own Online Store Selling our Overstock. > > http://us.click.yahoo.com/rZll0B/4ftFAA/46VHAA/ucIolB/TM > > -------------------------------------------------------------- > > -------~-> > > > > Please visit the Group Homepage to check the Files, > > Bookmarks, Polls and other resources as they are often being > > updated. The page is at: > > > > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint > > > > If you wish to receive no emails or just a daily digest, or > > you wish to unsubscribe, please edit your Membership > > preferences by visiting this same page. > > > > Please follow these basic guidelines: > > - Include your full name with your message. > > - Include the address of your website, if you have one. > > - As threads develop, trim off excess portions of earlier > > messages to keep them short. > > - As the topic of a thread changes remember to change the > > subject header. > > - Good manners are required at all time. No personal attacks > > or &amp;quot;flames.&amp;quot; > > - Complete your Yahoo profile. > > - Before posting a question, search the message archives and > > the various resources on the homepage. > > > > > > > > > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to > http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ > > > > Please visit the Group Homepage to check the Files, Bookmarks, Polls and other resources as they are often being updated. The page is at: > > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint > > If you wish to receive no emails or just a daily digest, or you wish to unsubscribe, please edit your Membership preferences by visiting this same page. > > Please follow these basic guidelines: > - Include your full name with your message. > - Include the address of your website, if you have one. > - As threads develop, trim off excess portions of earlier messages to keep them short. > - As the topic of a thread changes remember to change the subject header. > - Good manners are required at all time. No personal attacks or &amp;quot;flames.&amp;quot; > - Complete your Yahoo profile. > - Before posting a question, search the message archives and the various resources on the homepage. > > > > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ > > >
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Re: [Digital BW] RE: Is this noise or what? (was: Epson3200 - Test results)
2003-03-17 by Julian Thomas
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