Digital BW, The Print

Julian

The 1680 cannot be producing softer scans than the 3200 and I am getting
excellent results with just PS sharpening.  I have definitely found
artifacts appearing when doing any sort of sharpening in the scan software,
especailly is smooth, even tones such as blue sky.  I have also found that
UltraSharpen Pro produces much better results than plain USM.

Simon

----- Original Message -----
From: "Julian Thomas" <julianthomas@...>
To: <DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Monday, March 17, 2003 2:43 PM
Subject: Re: [Digital BW] RE: Is this noise or what? (was: Epson3200 - Test
results)


> You are dead right - it is better to leave sharpening until PS, BUT the
> optics in the 1680 are so soft that I need both. BTW I only do this in
BW -
> for colour I do all the sharpening (I use Ultra Sharpen Pro) in PS. One
test
> I do is to take a blank neg and use a sharp knife to make a score and then
> experiment with various amounts of sharpening to get a fine line. Flatbed
> scanners IME just cannot get the sharpness of a film scanner. People talk
> resolution numbers all the time but ignore the 'look' of scanners. I note
> that this is happening with cameras i.e. the Kodak is 'better' than the
> canon because it has more megapixels, noone seems to be bothered about the
> image quality!
>
> Julian
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Alessandro Pardi" <alessandro.pardi@...>
> To: <DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com>
> Sent: Monday, March 17, 2003 3:14 PM
> Subject: RE: [Digital BW] RE: Is this noise or what? (was: Epson3200 -
Test
> results)
>
>
> > Julian,
> >
> > do you get better results with a pre-sharpening at scan time? I always
> read
> > that it's better to leave the sharpening to Photoshop.
> >
> > Alessandro
> >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Julian Thomas [mailto:julianthomas@...]
> > > Sent: domenica 16 marzo 2003 12:06
> > > To: DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com
> > > Subject: Re: [Digital BW] RE: Is this noise or what? (was: Epson3200 -
> > > Test results)
> > >
> > >
> > >  I cannot get satisfactory scans (sharp) without applying 3x3
> > > > pixel unsharp mask in the scanning application (Silverfast Ai 6).
> > >
> > > Me too on a 1680. I need a 3x3 in the scanner software plus the usual
> > > unsharp mask tricks in PS. Just as an example - I had some
> > > scans done on a
> > > minolta of 6x6 cm negs. On the 1680 I have to use the same
> > > amount of unsharp
> > > mask on a 600x600 pixel 75ppi jpeg as i did on the 4800ppi
> > > minolta tiff
> > > file. Colour is harder as the 3x3 gives me a halo effect. I've started
> > > shooting a BW landscape project (ok Nij stop laughing) and the lackof
> > > sharpness is pissing me off big time
> > >
> > > Julian