On 3/19/03 5:53 PM, "jim hayes" <jimhayes@...> wrote: > I did have the foresight to compare a print that has a sharp > transistion in it- it jumps from maybe 75%k to maybe 30%k along an > maybe 1/16 inch wide line. In the past I've had abrupt changes using > VM depending on paper used; with IP5 it blends better. So if I was to > base it on that alone, my guess is that IP5 is not more contrasty. Have you looked at step wedges/gray ramps for these two workflows? I don't know about the RGB workflow for VM, haven't used it, but I can say with absolute certainty after a lot of testing and densitometer readings that IP with the 2200 is no where close to an Ames curve. Shadow detail from 90 to 100% is completely non-existent. Transitions in midtones are very smooth with the 2200 and IP. Because of the shadows IP radically increases contrast (just like the epson driver). Apparently Colorbyte and Epson don't know that fine art photographers want shadow detail...correction Colorbyte knows...I've told them a dozen times, but they refuse to correct the problem. I've sent them hard data several time illustrating the problem and they refuse to work on it because "commercial photographers want punchy images". The idiotic part of this argument is that if a commericial photographer wants more contrast he/she just needs to add it in photoshop! Using another driver (Ink Jet Control) to run the 2200 you can get beautiful step wedges with just two inks (light black and black) that perfectly follow an Ames curve. They look very similar to Cone's Sepia Pieztones...however slightly warmer. The main problem with the 2200 that will effect some people, depending on the paper they use are dots in the hilights. While this isn't a problem with a paper like German Etching, it is with Photo Rag or smoother...and particularly glossy papers. IP helps to minimize this by adding photo cyan and photo magenta...but the cost is a significantly reduced tonal range. In the end the best solution seems to be the new Ultra-quad inkset...taking advantage of the advantages of the Ultrachromes...but putting them in a variable toned quad...of course if they don't turn out to clog our printers. The best results with this inkset will be with a 1280/1290 or with a 2200/7600/9600 because of dot size...ideally driven with a RIP like Ink Jet Control where you can build your own profiles. Robert
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2200 (IP) vs Quad (VM) was Re: [Digital BW] Re: How my 2200 vs 1280 w/ OEM ink clog in my environment...?
2003-03-20 by Robert Morrison
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