Paul, Thanks for your input. It's tough to give up on the 1160 but the price to keep it running might be more for sentimental value than it's worth. I like my 1280 and if the deal is good enough I might go for one of his 1270's or get another 1280. He is a very reputable owner/operator and I trust him. I did notice a conspicuous lack of 2200 mention. Was that a gentle hint? Thanks again, Barry ----- Original Message ----- From: "Paul Roark" <paul.roark@...> To: <DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com> Sent: Saturday, April 12, 2003 4:22 PM Subject: RE: [Digital BW] printers....replace or repair > Barry, > > When my 1160 crashed, I paid the price to have it fixed (about what I paid > for it originally). It is the perfect printer for my ink development and > experimentation -- really a nice machine. > > That said, as we start to get into RC paper, the differences between the > quad and hextone quality are going to show a lot more. I have a 1280 > sitting on for floor that will replace the 1160 soon. Since there still > seems to be a lot of interest in the 1160, I might do a new curves set for > it with the production Ultra Tone B&W inks (if MIS ever sends me some). > However, that may be the end of the line for the 1160 for me. I think the > newer hextone printers are going to be necessary to get the best results > with the more critical RC papers. I suspect the 1270 is the oldest printer > that will be able to print state of the art prints on RC papers with the > Ultra Tone inks. > > Paul > http://www.PaulRoark.com > __________________________________ > > -----Original Message----- > From: bgs [mailto:bgs@...] > Sent: Saturday, April 12, 2003 11:26 AM > To: DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com > Subject: [Digital BW] printers....replace or repair > > > Howdy, > > I have an 1160 that started acting weird. This printer was a dream for a > couple of years. I use the CFS MIS-vm The prints after Paul's curves were > added were very dark. I printed squares of the separate cartridge positions > and they started looking strange except for the black position. The tubes > were correctly positioned and the swabs from the bottles looked fine. Nozzle > checks fired but the lower group seemed a little darker than they should. I > also printed the Epson test sheet from the pdf file that the service guy > sent me. Was not good tonally. I committed the printer to the local > Authorized Epson hospital. The owner eventually (while we were on the phone) > drew some pigment from the yellow position and told me it was dark. Said > there is a great possibility that the cartridge could have a split and the > pigments were mixing. I am going to get new cartridges for him at his > suggestion. > > Now comes the quandary. I had a new head put in in December but he is not > sure yet if this head is firing properly. He also said that Epson probably > won't guaranty a new head after this length of time. I am also close enough > to the mandatory maintenance time where he says it will stop printing soon > so it does need maintenance. I have a 1280 but would still need another > printer to do color and b/w. He has some 1270's which I could get a deal on > or I could possibly spring for a 2200 and fast for a while. Would love to > have my 1160 run or find another but that may not happen. WHICH WAY SHOULD I > GO!! I'm old and retired but full of life. The stock market didn't kill me > but hasn't made me happy either. Advice kindly accepted. Thank you all. > > Barry S. or bgs > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > Please visit the Group Homepage to check the Files, Bookmarks, Polls and > other resources as they are often being updated. 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Re: [Digital BW] printers....replace or repair
2003-04-12 by bgs
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