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Re: Eboni vs MB, FSK,UC/MK was[UltraTones - what to do]

2003-04-16 by jim hayes

I can think up ideas, but don't have the courage to try it out on my
own printer<GGGG>.

Just to comment on the Y swap: I figured that it would entail a new
set of curves; moreso I think the grey would have to be lighter. As a
rough try one could put the lightest grey UT ink in the Y cart, but I
don't know if you'd have a disaster mixing ink types. I'm not going to
try it...<g>. Then you would have to somehow flush and refill an empty
Y cart and reset the chip.

And a comment on the metal plate/roller thing: I never tried it
myself. It looks like the head might scrape on the sheet metal if it
were lifted up too high or the head might possibly run into a wedge
stuck under it. One thing I have tried is inserting a large plastic
paper clip from the output slot into the rollers outside the paper
width to prop up the metal a bit. Limited sucess there, but again I
didn't have much of a problem anyway printing on mat.
Jim H.






--- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "danielstaver"
<daniel@p...> wrote:
> > > I'm using a 2100. I've tried the eboni, universal, photo and light
> > > blacks from MIS without any problems at all. The only problem I have
> > > is with roller marks on Ilford Smooth Pearl, and to a lesser
extent on
> > > Epson Premium Semigloss, but I get that with Epson inks as well so I
> > > think it's unrelated. All the matte papers I've tried so far look
> fine.
> > Interesting that you have no problems. Would be nice to see a set of
> > grey carts for 2100/2200 manufactured. At very least the Y position
> > would give some better quad options than Epson UC right now. One could
> > pop the Epson Y back in for color, and swap it out for brand X light
> > grey for BW-???
> 
> That's a really good idea actually! And I just tried it. First i
> simply put a light black cartridge in the yellow slot. Didn't work.
> The cartridges are made like a key in the front, each color having a
> different pattern so they don't fit in each others places. I proceeded
> to cut the light black cartridge with a knife until it fit. This was
> less scary than it sounds like. I only had to cut off three small
> plastic parts to make it fit. But now the printer just gave me a red
> light in the yellow position, so I switched the chip in the light
> black with the one from the yellow. Now it works.
> 
> After a perfect nozzle check I tried a print, but I don't get anything
> resembling neutral. Everything looks bright, saturated purple now.
> From this I can tell that the epson driver must use a really large
> amount of yellow to make its pseudo-neutral color. No wonder we have
> metamerism problems. It's highly possible this could be fixed with a
> prober curve, but it'll take some time I think. I'll report back if I
> make any progress.
>  
> > Have you tried any experiments with lifting the sheet metal plate that
> > is spring loaded and contains all the pizza wheels and rollers? Or
> > counterbalancing the spring, putting a wedge under the plate, etc? I
> > haven't much of a problem here, but I use mat. Since the 2200 has this
> > "feature" though and the 1280 I own doesn't spring load all the wheels
> > in one plate, I thought it might be a neat trick for someone. Would
> > have to make sure counterbalace/wedge didn't interfere with head
> > sliding past...
> 
> Thanks for the tip! I'll try it next time I want to print on glossy.
> Sounds like it might work.

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