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Re: [Digital BW] Perma Jet Portrait Classic

2003-04-17 by Ernst Dinkla

----- Original Message -----
From: "Robert Morrison" <rmorrison@...>
To: <DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Thursday, April 17, 2003 6:58 PM
Subject: Re: [Digital BW] Perma Jet Portrait Classic


> That's a very interesting possibility, Ernest.  It could also
explain why
> Hahnemuhle coating consistency and composition is so different
across so
> many of its different rebrand papers.  This end user wants
> brighteners...this one doesn't...etc. If the end user does have
some say in
> the final coating formulation that could also explain why some
lots of
> Hahnemuhle papers flake terribly while others don't...then
again it could
> also just be poor manufacturering practice and a delicate
formula.  The only
> thing this doesn't explain is the incredible texture
differences in the the
> William Turner papers...but that is presumably wide tolerances
with what the
> paper mill actually accepts with respect to felt wear.
>
> Robert

Robert,

Reading my message again I can't find the reason why you think
the rebranded papers are more or less custom made. If there are
differences I think that's just the batch difference in
Hahnemuhle's production and the coating manufacturer's
production. With possibly one extra variable: raw stock from
different mills. Brightener variation seems to be related to rag
batches. Texture differences (+ more lint) are certainly related
to felt wear or better: lint accumulation on the felt, that was
what Hahnemuhle people told me a Drupa ago. Coating flake is
related to the last I guess.

It is often more economic for rebranders to confection (size
cutting, packaging) the paper themselves or have it done by third
parties in the USA. Big rolls are then shipped from Europe to the
USA. Not all the resellers will do that. Lyson sold the 36" rolls
in the same cartons as HM did, the stickers were removed and
other ones applied, quite visible though.

Ernst

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