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Re: [Digital BW] Re: IJC/Ilford Smooth Pearl Bronzing Problem

2003-04-20 by Robert Morrison

Carl,

Have you tried the epson pro glossy with the ultrachromes...much more like
an air dried silver print than the Ilford. They are the best BW RC style
prints that I've seen so far...can't wait to try it with the new Ultratones.

Robert

On 4/20/03 1:03 PM, "Carl Schofield" <scho@...> wrote:

> Thanks Antonis.  A couple of coats of Krylon does reduce the bronzing,
> but it does not completely eliminate it and I don't particularly care
> for the surface appearance.  I do like the higher dmax but can't get
> past the bronzing problems with the UC inks on RC papers so I'll
> sacrifice a little dmax for higher overall quality with the matte
> papers.
> 
> Carl
> 
> On Saturday, April 19, 2003, at 02:38  PM, Antonis Ricos wrote:
> 
>> Carl,
>> 
>> I haven't played with this combo at all - but I have seen prints with
>> similar
>> Epson papers that bronzed and I simply gave them a coat of good ol'
>> Krylon
>> which made it go away. I realize this is less than ideal for all sorts
>> of reasons
>> but I haven't  profiled this to know of a sure fix.
>> 
>>  Perhaps a different mix of black and gray?... (more PK, less gray). I
>> am
>> guessing that the gray loads the paper too much when it  hits a peak
>> in the
>> mids, while the black works fine even at 100%. Something to consider...
>> 
>> 
>> Antonis
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> --- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, Carl Schofield
>> <scho@m...> wrote:
>>> Just started working on IJC profiles for Ilford Smooth Pearl using the
>>> Epson 2200 with OEM/UC inks (Photo Black).  Tones are fine but there
>>> is
>>> severe bronzing that appears primarily between steps 15-20 (56-76% on
>>> a
>>> step-wedge) when the print is viewed at an angle.  The upper and lower
>>> sections of the step wedge show no bronzing.  This is with a 50/50
>>> blend of a cool and warm profile.  It appears that the light black ink
>>> might be the culprit causing the bronzing.  I'm using only black and
>>> light black for the warm profile and the same plus light cyan and
>>> light
>>> magenta for the cool profile.  Any suggestions for minimizing the
>>> bronzing would be appreciated.
>> 
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