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Re: [Digital BW] Why not Gen5 black?

2003-04-22 by Jerry Olson

Robert, Generations enhanced black is rated at 100+ years by Wilhelm. At
least thats what is says on the Media Street website. I've never
experienced any fading at all with the enhanced black. It took nearly 3
months in 
direct sunny window to show any fading. Seems to be pretty good. I
always use a cool curve, so if it does change toward brown, it won't
show as much as the other MIS inks. 

Jerry




Robert Morrison wrote:
> 
> Gen4 and Gen5 blacks both have 25% dye in them and thus fade much more
> quickly than the all pigment Ultrachrome and Ultraquad black inks. You get
> an additional black bump with the Gen4...but it fades away to a density less
> than blacks like the high pigment load Museum Black, Ultrachrome Matte Black
> or Ultraquad Eboni Black.
> 
> Robert
> 
> On 4/22/03 9:46 AM, "Charles Bandes" <byronbulb@...> wrote:
> 
> > So I'm curious -
> >
> > I keep hearing about people using the Mediastreet Gen4 black with their VM
> > inks in
> > order to get a higher dmax and richer blacks.
> >
> > I also keep hearing about how the ultratones require a photo black for glossy
> > and a
> > matte black for matte paper. And so I wonder, why not use the MediaStreet Gen5
> > black for both? Would it work?
> >
> > Is this a stupid suggestion? If so, why? I get pretty good _color_ prints
> > using that
> > black ink on both matte and glossy papers...
> >
> >
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