Robert, Generations enhanced black is rated at 100+ years by Wilhelm. At least thats what is says on the Media Street website. I've never experienced any fading at all with the enhanced black. It took nearly 3 months in direct sunny window to show any fading. Seems to be pretty good. I always use a cool curve, so if it does change toward brown, it won't show as much as the other MIS inks. Jerry Robert Morrison wrote: > > Gen4 and Gen5 blacks both have 25% dye in them and thus fade much more > quickly than the all pigment Ultrachrome and Ultraquad black inks. You get > an additional black bump with the Gen4...but it fades away to a density less > than blacks like the high pigment load Museum Black, Ultrachrome Matte Black > or Ultraquad Eboni Black. > > Robert > > On 4/22/03 9:46 AM, "Charles Bandes" <byronbulb@...> wrote: > > > So I'm curious - > > > > I keep hearing about people using the Mediastreet Gen4 black with their VM > > inks in > > order to get a higher dmax and richer blacks. > > > > I also keep hearing about how the ultratones require a photo black for glossy > > and a > > matte black for matte paper. And so I wonder, why not use the MediaStreet Gen5 > > black for both? Would it work? > > > > Is this a stupid suggestion? If so, why? I get pretty good _color_ prints > > using that > > black ink on both matte and glossy papers... > > > > > > > > Please visit the Group Homepage to check the Files, Bookmarks, Polls and other > > resources as they are often being updated. The page is at: > > > > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint > > > > If you wish to receive no emails or just a daily digest, or you wish to > > unsubscribe, please edit your Membership preferences by visiting this same > > page. > > > > Please follow these basic guidelines: > > - Include your full name with your message. > > - Include the address of your website, if you have one. > > - As threads develop, trim off excess portions of earlier messages to keep > > them short. > > - As the topic of a thread changes remember to change the subject header. > > - Good manners are required at all time. No personal attacks or > > &amp;quot;flames.&amp;quot; > > - Complete your Yahoo profile. > > - Before posting a question, search the message archives and the various > > resources on the homepage. > > > > > > > > > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ > > > > > > > > > Please visit the Group Homepage to check the Files, Bookmarks, Polls and other resources as they are often being updated. The page is at: > > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint > > If you wish to receive no emails or just a daily digest, or you wish to unsubscribe, please edit your Membership preferences by visiting this same page. > > Please follow these basic guidelines: > - Include your full name with your message. > - Include the address of your website, if you have one. > - As threads develop, trim off excess portions of earlier messages to keep them short. > - As the topic of a thread changes remember to change the subject header. > - Good manners are required at all time. No personal attacks or &amp;quot;flames.&amp;quot; > - Complete your Yahoo profile. > - Before posting a question, search the message archives and the various resources on the homepage. > > > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
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Re: [Digital BW] Why not Gen5 black?
2003-04-22 by Jerry Olson
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