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Re: [Digital BW] top-off - wasRe: vacuum vs bottom filling

2003-04-27 by Alan Zinn

At 09:55 PM 4/26/03 +0000, you wrote:
>--- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "lewis541b"
><lewiseye@e...> wrote:
> > Using CFS/CIS for 1160 quad carts; is there a preferred method
> > for filling a new set? It seems there are two popular methods.
> >
> > Is the bottom filling method presented by MIS for their inks
> > preferable to the vacuum method? I think I remember reading
> > some claims that there have been fewer start-up or clog
> > problems with the bottom fill method.
> >
> > Can anyone elaborate?
> >
> > John
>
>I don't know if your getting confused or not. Maybe I am by your
>question but I'll try to help. MIS in their CFS instructions tells you
>to use vacuum method...their method differs a bit from CIS method, but
>it's the same principle.
>
>Now, if you have problems AFTER carts are installed, and it looks like
>suspect pockets of air (i.e nozzle checks skips in random places not
>in a consistant line or two....or nozzle is completely out...but Epson
>carts work, etc), then you can repair the problem by the bottom
>removal of ink and returning to bottle until air is gone. Only MIS
>recommends this AFAIK, haven't seen it anywhere connected to CIS
>instructions.
>
>I have heard of bottom FILLING, but only compared to vacuum filling of
>individual carts not CFS. I was told it is not as good as vacuum
>filling for non CFS carts. MIS had this method prior to the apparatus
>now present to vacuum fill non CFS carts.
>
>There is a big problem with bottom fill: if you bottom fill, the
>screen/filter will not have a chance to protect the printhead since
>you're introducing ink from the bottom of screen  upwards into cart.
>All the clumps and garbage will be caught below the screen and enter
>the head some fine day. Not good.
>
>There is one advantage in bottom filling: if you have already broken
>the seal at bottom and wish to reprime. However in this case it might
>be worthwhile to draw ink/air out, rather than push it in, for the
>reason mentioned above.
>
>Also you run more risk of physical damage to the filter/screen by poking.
>Jim H.
>
>
>
>Guys,

I've been reading this thread and similar ones re clogs and filling 
problems with CIS.  There is a better way. Have a look at my top-off system 
notes.  It works great - never a clog, well, hardly ever :-)  I use MIS pig 
inks. It's air not clogs most of the time  that causes 
problems.   http://www.panoramacamera.us/m_topoff.html

AZ



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