At 09:55 PM 4/26/03 +0000, you wrote: >--- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "lewis541b" ><lewiseye@e...> wrote: > > Using CFS/CIS for 1160 quad carts; is there a preferred method > > for filling a new set? It seems there are two popular methods. > > > > Is the bottom filling method presented by MIS for their inks > > preferable to the vacuum method? I think I remember reading > > some claims that there have been fewer start-up or clog > > problems with the bottom fill method. > > > > Can anyone elaborate? > > > > John > >I don't know if your getting confused or not. Maybe I am by your >question but I'll try to help. MIS in their CFS instructions tells you >to use vacuum method...their method differs a bit from CIS method, but >it's the same principle. > >Now, if you have problems AFTER carts are installed, and it looks like >suspect pockets of air (i.e nozzle checks skips in random places not >in a consistant line or two....or nozzle is completely out...but Epson >carts work, etc), then you can repair the problem by the bottom >removal of ink and returning to bottle until air is gone. Only MIS >recommends this AFAIK, haven't seen it anywhere connected to CIS >instructions. > >I have heard of bottom FILLING, but only compared to vacuum filling of >individual carts not CFS. I was told it is not as good as vacuum >filling for non CFS carts. MIS had this method prior to the apparatus >now present to vacuum fill non CFS carts. > >There is a big problem with bottom fill: if you bottom fill, the >screen/filter will not have a chance to protect the printhead since >you're introducing ink from the bottom of screen upwards into cart. >All the clumps and garbage will be caught below the screen and enter >the head some fine day. Not good. > >There is one advantage in bottom filling: if you have already broken >the seal at bottom and wish to reprime. However in this case it might >be worthwhile to draw ink/air out, rather than push it in, for the >reason mentioned above. > >Also you run more risk of physical damage to the filter/screen by poking. >Jim H. > > > >Guys, I've been reading this thread and similar ones re clogs and filling problems with CIS. There is a better way. Have a look at my top-off system notes. It works great - never a clog, well, hardly ever :-) I use MIS pig inks. It's air not clogs most of the time that causes problems. http://www.panoramacamera.us/m_topoff.html AZ Build a Lookaround! The Lookaround Book. http://www.panoramacamera.us
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Re: [Digital BW] top-off - wasRe: vacuum vs bottom filling
2003-04-27 by Alan Zinn
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