Loris Medici wrote: > > >> >> >To me, making a statements like "unaltered camera image" or "unaltered >photograph" and such is completely dumb (sorry, but there's not another >word that I can describe it better - please do not take it as a personal >insult). I would never buy a print from someone making such a statement >- because it would indicate me that the photographer is more interested >in the technique and formalism than communicating his/her feelings, >worries, thoughts, message in a personal/special way. > Agreed 100% To go a bit further: not only that Loris but I would argue that the artist is actually involved in a self-deception of a sort.. As we would probably both agree, the artist's view will intrude no matter what.. Pure objectivity is impossible.. Art is about conveying emotion and feeling, not a staid emotionless image. It's a bit like memory... There is no such thing as an objective human memory... The fact is that our own perspective and filtering goes on unconsciously however hard we try to divorce it.. No matter what structural or rule-based methodologies we attempt to impose on ourselves.. It becomes tautological, we unconsciously influence the choice of rules or logical constructs, and that choice ab initio alters the view we perceive from what would be objective reality.. etc.. "Objective reality" as the metaphysicists understood, is never 100% possible for a human mind.. Reality and art are inherently subjective, both in their creation and in their experiencing.. This is not even a new philosophical concept.. Plato differentiated between an object's actual properties and our perception of those properties. He differentiated between "essence" and "manifestations." The metaphysicists differentiated between the rational, emotional, and noumenal realms.. The noumenal realm was inherently unknowable by any other than the object itself. Our perceptions were part of the rational realm, but those differed from the objective reality of the noumenal realm.. They were "our reality" and inherently influenced and colored by the emotional realm." Sorry for the digression, but this discussion is old hat in philosophical and political science circles.. In those circles and in higher physics (the Heisenberg uncertainty principle) we recognize that objective reality is itself an unstable concept.. All is mediated whether by our emotions and experiences or by the very act of viewing... Keith "Just some guy," and caretaker of the Multiverse's largest EPSON printer User Community (highly recommended by Vogon Poets and MegaDodo Publications), at: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/EPSONx7x_Printers/ "For the rest of you out there, the secret is to bang the rocks together guys" [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
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Re: Un-altered camera image was Re: [Digital BW] OT: What to call the prints...
2003-05-02 by Editor P.O.V. Image Service
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