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Re: Un-altered camera image was Re: [Digital BW] OT: What to call the prints...

2003-05-02 by Editor P.O.V. Image Service

Alan Zinn wrote:

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>>Do you really think photographers should strive to measure up to the 
>>public perception of the medium and art?  
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WHOA COWBOY!!  You were just saying in another post that this was about 
marketing and labeling.. THAT is about as subject to the market/public 
perception as can be!

>>Do you  really believe 
>>imagination and creativity in any medium, not just photography, is 
>>somehow  measured by the extent that an artist alters conventional sensory 
>>perceptions? 
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If emotions are considered sensory feedback. yes... to a great degree yes..

>> I should just grab my Holga camera, get some IR film, a 
>>hand-full of PS plug-ins, rough watercolor paper, and by god I'm doing 
>>art!  Oh yea, need to hire a nude model - that's Real Art.
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LOL.. At the other end of the extreme you can just as easily buy paints 
and drip them on a canvas...  Art is in the eye of the beholder not the 
critics, not the creator...  So please end this ceaseless focus upon 
technique and material.. Unless you believe that photographers (under 
your photographic idea) are disinterested objective observers and 
technicians, not artists?

In any case, your trivialized example would be art.. Whether it is GOOD 
art or simply trite crap will be up to viewers.. If it speaks to viewers 
in a way that moves them or re-orients their own perspectives it will be 
good art (whether or not you or I like it)..

We don't call paintings that are trite, "non-art" we call them "trite" 
and uninspired..

First you want objective labels...

Now you seem to be certainly predisposed to rigid definitions of what 
makes it into the little box you label "art."

IMHO: That's amazing tunnel vision for any artist.. Particularly for one 
teaching "art" to others..  I can't see how such opinions would not 
affect/infect students, even in subtle ways.. For me, "art" is about big 
horizons and expression.. Labels are for critics and agents - not for 
artists..
Keith

 

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