Digital BW, The Print

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From: "Editor P.O.V. Image Service" <editor@...>
To: <DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Sunday, May 11, 2003 3:46 AM
Subject: Re: [Digital BW] Lyson SG or wait for Mis UltraTone


> I did have some noticeable metamerism with ONE coated matte
paper, I
> wish I could remember which one (I know it was a Hahnemuhle
paper - 210
> gsm "Coarse Felt" I think - no loss as Lyson's Standard Fine
Art is
> basically a version of that paper with a coating tweaked by
Lyson - no
> problems with the latter)

The Hahnemuhle coating was once a result of cooperation between
Lyson and HM. That paper was sold on the Iris market by Lyson.
When the Epson piezo (Epson, Mutoh,Roland, Mimaki) revolution
started HM went on the market themselves, no longer bound by the
agreement for the Iris market. Lyson still sold the same
rebranded paper as before and it had a disastrous test with
Fotonic dyes at Wilhelm's test facilities.
The Iris technology of CMYK dye inks with multiple droplets
frequencies with lots of ink was quite different from the
Epson/Fotonic CcMmYK and that was shown in the fade properties.
Shortly after that happened the rumour started that Lyson
developed a new coating for their papers. I'm not convinced that
Lyson ever introduced a new coating for HM papers.

It would be nice if someone with a dye printer could print both
varieties and do a fade test, so that tale can be proven right or
wrong.

Ernst