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Re: [Digital BW] Lyson SG or wait for Mis UltraTone

2003-05-13 by nick90290

Keith-

In response to your reply -

1) Lyson sent me some new 4oz bottles of the SG inks, and 20 sheets 
of Fine Art paper. Whoop de doo. I've printed close to a thousand 
prints prior to that. 

2) Of course I sent Lyson samples of prints - green-shifted ones, 6 
months old, and fresh, still-sepia ones printed that day as
comparison 
reference. They didn't ask for any inks back.  

3) Many of the prints that shifted green were done on Lyson Standard 
Fine Art paper, and sprayed with Lyson Print Guard.

4) You jump the gun - of course I comprehend the difference between 
metamerism and an OVERALL across-the-board shift to green in the 
prints. It is the latter I'm referring to. Yes, you get metamerism 
with SG in a way you never do with MIS pigments, but that was always 
evident from the outset. Prints turning green was
not. 
Nor was it in my two friends' prints who have also seen their prints 
turn green with SG inks.

5) Now it's you who are jumping the gun again, presuming stuff with
an 
angry, vaguely abusive rant before hearing the complete story.
Perhaps you should practice what you preach. 

The point is I am NOT pissed off at metamerism, but I am pissed off
at my prints turning green. And I did present proof. I have dozens of 
prints as proof. I don't want to build a soapbox, but I do consider 
Lyson to be irresponsible in their marketing of these inks, and I am 
far from alone in this opinion.

And if you had checked my first e-mails on the subject, not just the 
brief exchanges with Ernst, you would have found what I consider to
be the full picture you say you want to hear.

Nick

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