Digital BW, The Print

Thanks again Tom - you have given me enough to get started. Greatly 
appreciate the time
Sean

--- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "Tom " 
<pouty_bob@y...> wrote:
> Ha!
> 
> my highly non-technical approach of going through each curve 
supplied
> with the 1290 downloads came about precisely because I spent some 
time
> trying to adjust a curve myself and had your exact questions..! 
> 
> if others can answer this all nice and succinct for forum style
> enjoyment, that would be nice...  but I suspect much time spent
> messing with curves is the only way I'll learn about curves.
> 
> did you get yours from here?:
> http://www.inksupply.com/index.cfm?source=html/workflow_roark.html
> 
> if so, which set did you pick?
> or were you just starting from scratch!?!
> 
> yes, the goal is to print nice clean 5% steps (then move on to 1% 
ones!)
> 
> I created a smaller 21 step file to save my precious ink and fit 
about
> 8 to a page.
> 
> wish I had better advice!
> good luck,
> 
> Tom
> 
> 
> 
> 
> --- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "spsguru"
> <spsguru@y...> wrote:
> > Tom - thanks for the help. Photo Ex is a 6 ink - the numbers 
onthe 
> > cartridges are the same as for the 700.
> > I am not sure what I am looking for in the curves.
> > 
> > i am printing rgb
> > 
> > I suppose teh objective is to print the 21 step - see if I have 
21 
> > steps in the print - if not - tweak the curves until I do - the 
> > question is - which curve? Do i mess with the composite only or 
twek 
> > the r or g or b?
> > 
> > 
> > --- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "Tom " 
> > <pouty_bob@y...> wrote:
> > > Howdy Sean,
> > > 
> > > I was in the same situation when I first started using the MIS 
VM 
> > set
> > > with my 2000P. I ignored all the negative talk about my 
printer and
> > > tried various curve sets until I found one that produced a 
nice 
> > clean
> > > 21 step test.
> > > 
> > > are you trying to print greyscale or rgb? 
> > > 
> > > I am surprised reducing the magenta via the slider has no 
effect. I
> > > know nothing about the EX (4 or 6 color?, dye or pigment 
inks?), 
> > but
> > > would suggest seeing if there is a set of curves for a similar 
> > printer
> > > and start there. For me, it was the set for the 1290.
> > > 
> > > hope this helps,
> > > 
> > > Tom De Carlo
> > > 
> > > 
> > > --- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "spsguru"
> > > <spsguru@y...> wrote:
> > > > I just received some quadtone inks from MIS - their variable 
> > > > quadtones. They allow you to print cooler tones - and I have 
> > printed 
> > > > the 21 step grayscale for testing they have on site. I 
cannot 
> > get 
> > > > rid of the cool tone - moving the sliders in color 
management 
> > > > (yellow or magenta) does not change anything, They do not 
have 
> > > > curves available for this printer ....
> > > > 
> > > > Net - I am a complete newbie at using these inks - have 
tried to 
> > > > follow their suggested workflows (for other printers, dont 
have 
> > EX) 
> > > > and cannot get anywhere.
> > > > 
> > > > Any one can help?
> > > > 
> > > > Thank you
> > > > Sean