well if you want plug n play the new bwguys software and inks will work on fine art papers without playing around, as will the piezo profiles - if you like either inks and will pay the price. No fiddling at all Julian ----- Original Message ----- From: "Peter Nelson" <peter@...> To: <DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com> Sent: Thursday, May 15, 2003 2:06 PM Subject: [Digital BW] Re: Stupid newbie questions > --- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "jimj1946" > <jimj1946@y...> wrote: > > Almost all these methods are basically for > > > geeks and nerds who enjoy doing profiling and running test strips > > and > > > tweaking things and taking out heads and cleaning them and > > installing > > > special software on their computers, etc, etc. > > > > > > > I hope that geeks and nerds was meant in a good way. I am also just > > getting started in B&W inkjet printing. So far I don't see how it > is > > any different than darkroom work, as far as the > > tinkering aspect goes. I don't know of any darkroom > > printer who is not always looking for the perfect paper, > > film, developer combination. > > You must be young. Nowadays very few people do their own wet > darkroom work so those that do are in the "enthusiast" category. > They do it because they LIKE the process, they ENJOY the > experimenting and tinkering, etc. That's why all the ones you know > today seem to be avid tinkerers. > > I've been doing wet darkroom since the mid-60's. In those days FOR > MOST PEOPLE it was simply a means to an end - to make prints of our > photos or to do it more cheaply than a pro lab. I found papers and > chemicals and processes that WORKED and stuck with them; I spent very > little time tinkering, nor did most people I knew. We weren't trying > to be Ansel Adams; we were trying to make prints of our photos. > > That's the point that digital B+W has yet to evolve to. A standard, > agreed-upon process and set of technologies that works for 90% of > users so when a newbie comes here we can all say "here's how you get > started" and tell him the same basic thing. Tinkering should > always be an option for the advanced enthusiast, but it should not be > REQUIRED to just get a decent, neutral, streak-free, print without > blocked shadows or mid-tone texturing. > > > > > Please visit the Group Homepage to check the Files, Bookmarks, Polls and other resources as they are often being updated. The page is at: > > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint > > If you wish to receive no emails or just a daily digest, or you wish to unsubscribe, please edit your Membership preferences by visiting this same page. > > Please follow these basic guidelines: > - Include your full name with your message. > - Include the address of your website, if you have one. > - As threads develop, trim off excess portions of earlier messages to keep them short. > - As the topic of a thread changes remember to change the subject header. > - Good manners are required at all time. No personal attacks or &amp;quot;flames.&amp;quot; > - Complete your Yahoo profile. > - Before posting a question, search the message archives and the various resources on the homepage. > > > > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ > > >
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Re: [Digital BW] Re: Stupid newbie questions
2003-05-15 by Julian Thomas
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