Yahoo Groups archive

Digital BW, The Print

Index last updated: 2026-04-28 22:56 UTC

Message

Re: Problems printing with Variable Tone inks

2003-05-15 by PhotoWorkshops Partnership

On 15/5/03 9:36 pm, John Adey <DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com>
wrote:

> I'd be grateful for the benfit of other's experience with MIS
> Variable Tone inks. I've just converted an epson 1160 to a CIS system
> using MIS Variable tone inks (marketed here in the UK as Permajet
> VariTone Blax). I've previously used Lyson SG in an 1160(different
> machine) with acceptable results. But now I'm struggling to produce a
> good tonal range in darker areas, with blocking up of darker tones.
> One or two thoughts at this stage (before I throw the whole setup
> throught the window!):
> 1) How critical is color space setting in the print driver? (Lyson
> produced specific spaces for each papers and it was essential to use
> these settings for best effect)

I'm using Varitone Blax in an Epson 1200 which is a six ink system but my
experience may be relevant.

The colour space is critical - if you don't use sRGB you get all manner of
blocked up shadows - I thought this wouldn't make a deal of difference but
it has proved otherwise - I've set up a Photoshop Action to assign the sRGB
profile from the greyscale original and load the Curve command with the
required Varitone false colour adjustment.

> 2) What color space do other users print to?

See above

> 3) Do I have to accept less 'punchy' prints with these inks?

Compared to what - I've been very happy with the Varitone system for 'punch'
given its use with papers like Lyson Standard Art and Somerset Velvet
Enhanced paper - gloss/oyster/semi-matt papers seem to be a non starter!

> 4) Just how much individual tweaking do other users find necessary to
> apply in addition to Paul Roark's curves?

Once the workflow was established correctly I found there was no need to
tweak or alter the curves at all. I produced a single file with four
21-step wedges and four copies of the same image treated to each of the
false colours for Cool, Neutral Cool, medium Warm and Warm before I saw that
all was well.

--
Regards
David Prakel

Centre of Britain PhotoWorkshops Partnership
www.photopartners.co.uk

Attachments

Move to quarantaine

This moves the raw source file on disk only. The archive index is not changed automatically, so you still need to run a manual refresh afterward.