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Re: [Digital BW]Epson cartridge MIS black clog won't go away on epson 1280

2003-05-21 by Alan Zimmerman

Johnny, thanks again, The math favoring self filling is convincing to say the least.
Since the last emails I have finally gotten a clean nozzle check but still a visible banding on MIS Black only cart. Is there a workflow  for Black only, I seem to have seen a proponent of that on line, but can't locate again.
When my quattones arrive, I plan to switch, knowing the quads are superior in smooth tonality. However, in the meantime, I have a print deadline within two days so I will have to find a black only cart workflow. Any suggestions or links would be most appreciated.
Alan Zimmerman
azimmerma1@...
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Johnny Eades 
  To: DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Wednesday, May 21, 2003 11:11 AM
  Subject: Re: [Digital BW]Epson cartridge MIS black clog won't go away on epson 1280


  Hello alan,

  I bought two virgin cartridges that had never had ink inside and 
  filled them myself with the syringe and bottles of ink for the 
  proper chamber. The price comparison is unbelievable. A cartridge 
  for hextone inksets runs about $30.00 and an 8 ounce bottle of ink 
  runs $16.00. If each chamber of the six chambers is filled with 7CC 
  of ink, then an 8 ounce bottle will fill each chamber about 16 
  times. If you had to purchase a new cartridge when one chamber was 
  empty then 16 X $30 is $480 and the price for 6 bottles of ink at 
  $16 is $96 dollars. Which seems reasonable to you and me???

  Your friend in Photography

  Johnny Eades
  jeades1@...


  --- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "Alan 
  Zimmerman" <azimmerman1@c...> wrote:
  > Johnny, thanks for the response, Since I don't refill my own 
  cartridges, guess I'll need to get a syringe then a small bottle to 
  temporarily store.Are you using the inidvidual cart. or the refill 
  system. My cart. came direct from MIS already filled. I'm surprised 
  they would have air build up but I'm willing to try anything.
  > thanks,
  > Alan Zimmerman
  >   ----- Original Message ----- 
  >   From: Johnny Eades 
  >   To: DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com 
  >   Sent: Tuesday, May 20, 2003 3:41 PM
  >   Subject: Re: [Digital BW]Epson cartridge MIS black clog won't go 
  away on epson 1280
  > 
  > 
  >   Hello Alan,
  > 
  >   I use an epson 1280 also, and when I get any banding; it appears 
  to 
  >   be air bubbles insted of a clogged nozzle. What I do to solve 
  the 
  >   problem is to tape over all the vent holes on the top of the 
  >   cartridge and use a 60CC syringe to suck out all the ink and 
  foam 
  >   that has collected in the chamber. I reuse the ink and foam. The 
  >   foam is just ink with air in it, which goes away and return to 
  solid 
  >   ink again. Then i refill the cartridge with ink and leave it 
  sitting 
  >   overnight. The next day everything works just fine. Try this one 
  >   time and I think you will be surprised how quickly the banding 
  goes 
  >   away. If you try to print too soon, you may get pooling on the 
  >   print; and you may still get pooling if you print at high speed 
  >   anyway. 
  > 
  >   Your friend in Photography,
  > 
  >   Johnny Eades
  > 
  > 
  > 
  > 
  >   --- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "Alan 
  >   Zimmerman" <azimmerman1@c...> wrote:
  >   > I just started using MIS cartridge inks on Epson 1280. Printer 
  had 
  >   worked flawlessly with Epson dye based inks previously. Within 
  one 
  >   day, with the Mis Black cartridge I experienced banding on a 
  >   grayscale file with Black only, (no gray or quad cartridge on 
  >   line).. I then did 3 nozzle cleans and banding diminished but 
  still 
  >   visible with 15x loupe. next print same story. as of this second 
  >   day,  and after 10 nozzle cleanings no relief. Any one have any 
  >   suggestions?
  >   > BTW, the same image file printed on Epson black only cartridge 
  and 
  >   Epson dye had much less visible banding under 15x loupe.?
  >   > Would are COne system Piezzo inks less likely to clog----- 
  >   >   From: Andrew Brilliant 
  >   >   To: DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com 
  >   >   Sent: Tuesday, May 20, 2003 9:28 AM
  >   >   Subject: [Digital BW] CIS Black CLOG on 1160 wont go away....
  >   > 
  >   > 
  >   >   Ugh got a real bad clog   on my 1160. CIS   Black  ink.
  >   >   Have tried all the usual solutions.    Both liquid and 
  >   mechanical.   Cones 
  >   >   tips and tried ammonia  and alcohol.   Also some     
  strange  
  >   cleaning fluid 
  >   >      from that company in Las Vegas.  Did not  work.
  >   >   I hardly get any ink coming out of that nozzle, the numbers 
  >   don't even 
  >   >   print.
  >   > 
  >   >   I suppose I have to get it serviced.
  >   > 
  >   >   One last idea was to get an original Epson black cartridge 
  and 
  >   see if that 
  >   >   ink will open up the nozzles. Does anyone  think that is a 
  good 
  >   idea  or are 
  >   >   there some new ideas for cleaning .  I have not looked 
  around 
  >   for cleaning 
  >   >   ideas since last summer.
  >   > 
  >   >   I need to start making some new B&W print quadtones.   By 
  the 
  >   way this clog 
  >   >   is with MIS inks!!!
  >   > 
  >   > 
  >   > 
  >   > 
  >   >   Check out www.brilliantpictures.com
  >   > 
  >   >   Andrew Brilliant
  >   > 
  >   > 
  >   >   >
  >   > 
  >   >   
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